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  1. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I've neither read nor played Monsterhearts myself. I think this is a bit of a genre trope though. You are playing teenagers and dealing with their drama. Not a group exactly known for careful planning and measured responses! So, as a genre trope, going off half-cocked seems pretty solid. Add in...
  2. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    No I don't. We've all been posting here and discussing each other's ideas for a LONG time! You've been posting for 5 years now, according to your profile, but Lanefan, myself, and many of the others here go back, in my case, getting close to 20 years. He knows he's using a form of excluded...
  3. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I just note how you don't distinguish the interests of the player and the character here. Sure, it's probably advantageous from the character's perspective, but the player has different interests. There's no special correlation between having a character with fictional power/riches/authority and...
  4. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    There's no principle called 'be stupid'. You're reaching. Bringing the conflict to bear on the characters, challenging them, making them get up buckle their boots and get 'er done. That's what this is about. Now, if all a player wants to do is turtle? Yeah that won't work, but going in prepared...
  5. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Look, I wasn't there and won't pretend to know what was going on. OTOH I do think it's very likely that the player being complained about was misbehaving. It just strikes me as very odd to attribute that behavior to a detail of their character. A sober evaluation of the situation is very likely...
  6. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Right, the 2014 system is basically lifted straight from 4e. You roll a Stealth check and whatever that result is, that's the DC of a Perception check, passive or active, required to see, or at least detect, you. That being said, the GM has a bunch of leeway in terms of whether you meet the...
  7. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I have a friend who is a master lock hacker. Truthfully, for a skilled person tackling ordinary locks there's little doubt of the outcome. Still, it took him 20 minutes to pick a simple toggle bolt lock on my apartment door one time. Padlocks are all super pathetic though, even the studly...
  8. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    You might be going a bit far in the other direction. Nor did @TwoSix say that self-awareness etc. was nothing. He simply suggested something that my experience tells me is pretty useful. That is, you should have some actual substance to the portrayal. BW and TB2e have belief, nature, instincts...
  9. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Touchy much? I never said anyone is childish except some hypothetical person who can't play with others. And I am going by a metric ton of experience here. You decide your character is Little Lord Smarty-pants, that's fine. Now the conflicts you will deal with are going to be framed around...
  10. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Well, I've seen a lot, and my sense of it is that if a player uses backstory authority to, say, grant their character power and influence, so what? Now their story is about that! Meanwhile, spotlight is a whole other thing. Part of the job of a GM, in most systems -both traditional and...
  11. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I'm actually happy with players creating backstory and whatnot dynamically during play in order to relate to stuff that is happening. That's awesome. Maybe it even helps them out sometimes in a fairly simple way. But given we're playing to make the game interesting and the PCs lives exciting...
  12. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    AFAIK the psychic maelstrom ONLY effects things through the interpretation of the characters, as described by the players. While it doesn't belong to the players, they're the ones who actually describe it. The GM could then follow up on that and manifest it as an actual threat.
  13. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I disagree. Had the player declared that the PC do some different thing, then this roll would not have happened. It's entirely diegetic! That's the whole point! I think the actual reasons why some gamers dislike this kind of thing has much more to do with the fact that it tends to blur the...
  14. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It certainly seems inevitable that this is nearly always the case. I mean, why else would you DR? The alternative would be to imagine players spamming it around at random. It's additionally key to understand that PCs in a game like DW always have some definite intent! I'm sure we can imagine a...
  15. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I think 'quantum' is a usage that has commonly been used to refer to practices most people here don't approve of. In that sense it could be seen as, to me very mildly, disparaging. However, I don't think it serves any purpose to police something that trivial. I'm sure whichever poster introduced...
  16. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Well, lets put it this way. If one claims to be offended and demands that others change their behavior, one must be willing to do the same. If instead one dismisses such complaints then one is committing the same behavior which one accuses others. One might then fairly be considered...
  17. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    No, a lot of it isn't disparaging at all Max, unless you find any analysis of game play disparaging to you. Basically what you are doing now is a move in a kind of censorship. And yes, I know, many truly reprehensible people start with this argument. I'm not interested in pushing it to justify...
  18. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    The terminology policing goes FAR beyond questions of offense.
  19. AbdulAlhazred

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I would just say that learning and practicing equanimity is a primary indicator of maturity. I think that is a part of what Lewis meant. It's a central theme of Aurelius' Meditations.
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