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Was it a CR1 monster though (genuine question, I have no idea)? There's a distinction between use of CR as a ready reckoner and being shackled by it into only creating TOF 'balanced' encounters. I can't see how refining the usefulness of CR (either by adjusting the rating itself or tweaking...

I think the issue here is one of approach surely? I use CR as a rough-and-ready indicator of monster strength. To the extent that monster tweakage makes that indicator more accurate I'm all for it. But I don't let CR determine encounters. I am (as I sense are you) a 'sh*t happens' fan when it...

I must admit I haven't played for years myself! Playing more than one system is something that has gone out of the window with the increasing demands of real life. I just remember handfuls of d6s, teeth-chattering auto-weapon combat, car chases, teeth-chattering auto-weapon combat & intrigue...

Shadowrun.

Yes, yes, exactly! The whole point of the old school Paladin was that you had to be nice to be everyone, you didn't get to keep the shiny, but when it came to the struggle against the legions of evildom, you kicked a*se. YMMV :)

It's a shame not to be playing 4e :( Was really looking forward to it. So... Pathfinder

We've been using the Beta for a while now. Don't know if all this will make it to the finished product but: Channel Energy rules stop Clerics swapping out all their spells for heals and the mechanic is artfully handled. There are more HP around in general (HD have been upscaled through the...

This thread is like an encounter group! My name's Mike and I'm a dunge-aholic... Loving the D&D. 30 years and still going strong. The gift that keeps on giving. Gotta go now and listen at a door...

This is spot on. (Though they do care if you live or die - especially you, you wonderful customer you!). I stopped giving them my money when they stopped selling stuff I liked. 4e core will be my last ever purchase - not to my taste. Good luck to all editions and all who sail in them.

And conversely, players weaned on CR's or XP budgets live in a world in which every challenge they encounter (be it a combat, a steep cliff or a trapped portal) has to be 'do-able' because they know the DM is working within guidelines. That makes life far too comfortable. For me, I like the idea...

Yup. And XP awards are self-correcting.

Yup, me too. You can always fudge a little.

This is just 4E?

I guess this is off-topic (sorry mods) but in the UK today is red nose day, an opportunity to raise cash for those less fortunate. If you feel so inclined, visit BBC - Red Nose Day 2009 - Home to make a difference. Cheers, Mike

That's very difficult to say. There have been a couple of polls on ENWorld that give (to me) very surprising results. Try here for a summary of one of the largest: http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/247762-changeover-poll-39.html#post4645585 Seems to break down to about 55-60%...

That is eerily perceptive. It is like you have scried my very mind...

I voted 1. Our group pretty much raced each other to get the new core books first. My instinct was to switch, habituated as I was after switching through all of the editions since '78. We played for a few months but found that 4e wasn't for us. It's all about personal taste but the prevailing...

That's pretty much my experience exactly. I'm running Rise of the Runelords (written for 3.5) for my group (we all bought 4e core books and played for about 4 months but have reverted). I had lost my 3.5 PHB and decided to pick up a print copy of PFBeta. I let the guys create their PCs using 3.5...

I'm loving this argument. A most entertaining read.

Perhaps. As per all 3x the Cleric is pretty much critical. I think the PF changes are just a recognition of that fact - an attempt to give Clerics their spells back and free them up to contribute. I suspect a proper 'fix' for the Cleric thing is outside Paizo's ambitions. In the two PF games...