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    Pathfinder 1E D&D and Pathfinder tied for first place on ICv2 Q3 RPG sales list

    Common sense & general business practices effectively negate the need for such. If anything, you'd need evidence that Hasbro is micro-managing. Facts: WotC has its own executive management WotC is a division of hasbro Hasbro has its own executive management team Executives are typically...
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    Pathfinder 1E D&D and Pathfinder tied for first place on ICv2 Q3 RPG sales list

    I only suggested such a possibility in response to the idea that if the D&D were available to be scooped up by Paizo, they should immediately dump or re-brand Pathfinder as D&D. Or that in some weird scenario Paizo would hitch their wagon to a future 5e. I was merely making the case that while...
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    Pathfinder 1E D&D and Pathfinder tied for first place on ICv2 Q3 RPG sales list

    The numbers you're citing make my point. While different industries, they're thematically similar. Yet Warcraft as a brand has far surpassed D&D in terms of brand recognition. D&D has fiction lines and video games and formerly a line of toys, a cartoon, and a couple of movies -- so where's...
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    Pathfinder 1E D&D and Pathfinder tied for first place on ICv2 Q3 RPG sales list

    Negative brand recognition doesn't help the brand (see the Yugo car & New Coke for examples). Similarly, brand recognition without understanding what the product is equates to a brand of limited value. Awareness does not equal brand power -- it can, but it's not a certainty. Assuming your...
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    Pathfinder 1E D&D and Pathfinder tied for first place on ICv2 Q3 RPG sales list

    Interesting post. I do question how strong the D&D brand name truly is, however. Within the RPG hobby, of course, it's huge but while the public at large might recognize the term Dungeons & Dragons, most non-RPGers I've met over the years really have no idea what the game entails. Similarly...
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    Pathfinder 1E D&D and Pathfinder tied for first place on ICv2 Q3 RPG sales list

    Then you're not reading my posts. This thread started out as a "Wow that surprised me" & "congrats to Paizo" post. It quickly devolved into "If PF wins, 4e must lose" & "any data that suggests PF is doing well must be suspect". I've long advocated that both sides of the Edition Wars won by...
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    Pathfinder 1E D&D and Pathfinder tied for first place on ICv2 Q3 RPG sales list

    1st - I agree that a strong D&D game/brand is good for the hobby. However, I also submit that a strong Pathfinder brand is good for the hobby as well. 2nd - I'm NOT saying that you're taking the position I'm about to portray below, nor am I saying this reflects the feelings of either publisher...
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    Pathfinder 1E D&D and Pathfinder tied for first place on ICv2 Q3 RPG sales list

    Methinks thou dost protest too much. Don't worry, the PFRPG was never released with the intention of "dethroning" 4e. Paizo's RPG was designed to support the APs, modules, & Golarion. The collective whole is designed to (from what I've gleaned from Paizo posts): A) Make the company as...
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    Pathfinder 1E D&D and Pathfinder tied for first place on ICv2 Q3 RPG sales list

    Wait... so the only way for the hobby to grow is if WotC grows? Sorry, not buying that.
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    Pathfinder 1E D&D and Pathfinder tied for first place on ICv2 Q3 RPG sales list

    Now, now. Don't go throwing facts into the mix. :) After all, statements from the publisher, articles by respected industry sources, and opinions levied by respected 3rd-party RPG writers/publishers do not outweigh the power of anecdotal, personal evidence. That is unless it supports your...
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    Pathfinder 1E D&D and Pathfinder tied for first place on ICv2 Q3 RPG sales list

    I truly don't get this place sometimes. There's nothing in the original post that digs, slams, or diminishes 4e. It talks about the PFRPG doing well. The RPG Industry Lack of Sales Statistics Treadmill needs a new belt, 'cause the old one is threadbare & I think I smell rubber burning. Given...
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    Pathfinder 1E D&D and Pathfinder tied for first place on ICv2 Q3 RPG sales list

    THIS +1. The brand is irrelevant. The GAME is what brings my players back to the table. No one at my table cares if the name is "Dungeons & Dragons".
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    Has the Wandering Monster concept died?

    Wandering Monsters are still in use, at least at my table. Wandering Monsters also appear in print, at least within Paizo products. However, they're more likely to show up in describing a region where overland or sea travel is involved than within a particular dungeon. I've never bought into...
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    MERGED - "About Edition Wars" threads x9

    And THIS is the thread you choose to bring that banner to? Whatever floats you boat, man. I'm sure you'll be making the rounds to the threads that have actually become edition war threads to plead this case as well, right? As to the original question, should I consider you a "Yes" or a "No"...
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    MERGED - "About Edition Wars" threads x9

    Dear mods, Is it possible to change the thread title to "Can the General Forum be used for General Topics?" Apparently, my choice of thread titles was poor. It appears that people are reading the title and responding to it as more Edition War fodder rather than the original post which was...
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    MERGED - "About Edition Wars" threads x9

    Allowing for the possibility I've fallen into another dimension or that what I'm typing isn't actually being displayed they way I'm typing it, WTF?!? I started this thread b/c I'm tired of Edition War threads and thought that if the General Forum was used as intended by its description, and...
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    MERGED - "About Edition Wars" threads x9

    "Thread like this" meaning an edition war thread or "thread like this" meaning this thread where I'm simply suggesting that the General Forum be used for General RPG topics?
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    MERGED - "About Edition Wars" threads x9

    Ok, but then the General description ought to be changed to "Really specific game discussion belongs in..." and general gets opened up to everything else. If it's clearly a system-specific thread, I don't see why it shouldn't reside in its proper forum, subtext or no subtext. YMMV.
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    How to do a doomed, "Halo Reach" type game?

    I'd differentiate between a "Doomed outcome" as opposed to "Doomed PCs". To use a Reach-like example, if the Demon King is leading the Orc Horde towards the PCs homeland, you can set up the campaign (or arc, etc.) as: "In the 8th year of King Whathisname's reign, the Demon Lord united the orc...
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