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  1. The Thayan Menace

    Another Paladin Thread: Throw Rocks!

    Responses to Thurbane: Anything is possible, especially in the FRCS. However, the Thar is a blasted heath full of savage humanoids. Killing one orc mook makes very little difference, especially when his ogre bosses are the real scourge. Who knows? I wasn't really expecting rehabilitation. I was...
  2. The Thayan Menace

    Another Paladin Thread: Throw Rocks!

    Crusader Sermons & Wild Magic I appreciate your honesty. Please take my light-hearted responses with a grain of salt. ;) First, orcs are not always evil. Second, killing a creature strictly because its race is often evil is questionable ... at best. Finally, although many paladins fight evil...
  3. The Thayan Menace

    Another Paladin Thread: Throw Rocks!

    This Party's Not Over ... Yet! Maybe for you. However, I'm cool with additional discourse. Please keep in mind, I started this thread to gain discernment ... not to punish the paladin. -Samir
  4. The Thayan Menace

    Another Paladin Thread: Throw Rocks!

    Putting the Tyr Back in Tyranny! I must respectfully disagree that paladins deserve automatic respect, especially in the Moonsea (where Law is typically associated with Despotism). I know it's a cliché, but true respect is earned ... not given. -Samir
  5. The Thayan Menace

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    Intolerance is .... Replace the word "orc" with the name of any good fantasy race, and read your statement again. Better yet, replace "orc" with the name of any FRCS ethnic group. Sure, D&D is just a game ... but this line of thought can lead to a very dark place. -Samir
  6. The Thayan Menace

    Another Paladin Thread: Throw Rocks!

    Clarification: I'm not saying that you are wrong, however I am saying that I do not remember ANY specific references to dead merchants. Granted, bandits are certainly capable of killing ... but all I remember was references to banditry, not slaughter of innocents. -Samir
  7. The Thayan Menace

    Another Paladin Thread: Throw Rocks!

    Yup .... Definitely ... thus a metagame discussion begins (on our group ProBoard and/or the telephone) to find common ground. -Samir
  8. The Thayan Menace

    Another Paladin Thread: Throw Rocks!

    Truth .... Agreed. Nigel is (CN) with (CG) tendencies; in his heart ... he really wants to do right, but often finds himself taking a pragmatic and/or mercenary approach. What burned me about the paladin confrontation was very simple: Nigel actually did something noble and good ... and she...
  9. The Thayan Menace

    Another Paladin Thread: Throw Rocks!

    Harper Justice: This is the Moonsea. The Harpers are a secret society of non-Evil vigilantes ... not High Justice, and most certainly not the local authorities (although that's probably a good thing). -Samir
  10. The Thayan Menace

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    The OP Responds: I responded with harsh words, after she verbally threatened me in front of my associates. I have no issue with ambushing an armed mercenary patrol. I do have an issue with killing a fleeing (unarmed) prisoner in cold blood. 01. We conducted our interrogation openly. 02. My...
  11. The Thayan Menace

    Another Paladin Thread: Throw Rocks!

    More: Guaranteed. Also, if you're curious about her background ... feel free to pick up a copy of it HERE. True enough, and I'll admit ... I've adventured with very few paladins. I did play one once, but he leaned more towards the Good side of his Alignment axis than his Lawful side (which is...
  12. The Thayan Menace

    Another Paladin Thread: Throw Rocks!

    Additional Clarification: To be accurate: both Nigel and Mival openly defended the orc, Bogg and Wade were undecided ... but receptive to his release, and Wyndess was the one who just wanted to kill him. We conducted the interrogation openly; no party member attempted to hide anything from one...
  13. The Thayan Menace

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    Play-By-Play (x3) Yes (but not explicitly), near the end of our Q&A. Yes. We're 6th level. We have only adventured as a complete party twice. We've released human mercenaries (who surrendered to us) once before ... and they were guarding slaves. True, however we didn't think one squealing orc...
  14. The Thayan Menace

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    Discernment: I'll admit ... although the orc mook's summary execution did not sit well with me at the time, I'm not as sore about it now. Also, I realize that there are many ways to look at this matter ... and still fall within the guidelines of ethical behavior. I'm taking the following...
  15. The Thayan Menace

    Another Paladin Thread: Throw Rocks!

    Clarifications: Not quite ... we were told that the ogre citadel was preying on caravans and probably contained magical treasure from the hoard of Vorbyx. Harpers tipped us off, and in exchange we agreed to end the citadel's banditry on the Glister Road. For the record ... I was the one who...
  16. The Thayan Menace

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    Hang That Judge! Although the orc did attack us (i.e., armed adventurers who ambushed him) ... we never saw him threaten an innocent or see any evidence that he had killed anyone. The ogre citadel where he came from contained the wreckage of wagons, but we never saw anything that resembled...
  17. The Thayan Menace

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    Oh Well .... We're probably going to settle for something like this in the future, which is a real shame ... and not very heroic. Still, I suppose it's better than party fratricide. Too bad I didn't know about Wyndess' penchant for summary executions beforehand ... then perhaps our conflict...
  18. The Thayan Menace

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    A Dark Place .... Does that really justify murdering an unarmed orc prisoner during parley ... and acting only on circumstantial evidence (at best)? This sort of two-dimensional (LG) zealotry seems impractical as well as immoral. -Samir
  19. The Thayan Menace

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    Talk AND Die! No doubt, but they might be reluctant to talk once they awaken ... if they assume we'll simply kill them afterward. -Samir
  20. The Thayan Menace

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    Truth .... The paladin received no consequences, that I'm aware of Also, to reiterate ... I did not start this thread to prove the paladin's "guilt" and/or see her penalized. I simply want to gain discernment on a hazy issue, and figure out a way for Nigel to logically cope without disrupting...
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