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Would like to run a Deadlands game in the OKC area. It is a "just for fun" game with no set times. If interested please contact me via email...marcmit@yahoo.com The game is an extended version of a game I played in that is now defunct. It is centered around Dodge City, but players are persuaded...

Would we all be having this discussion if the map/board/whatever rotated yet your figured stayed in the same spot. Hmmm just wondering.

Sound can carry underwater but we don't have the olfactory capabilty to understand(water in the ears problem). I still think you can speak just have a hard time making sure you say what you want to say. The components are the problem i see. I think this is what i meant to refer to that yes...

Ok with what you say..then you have to be 12th level to forge a ring of invisibilty. Lets see caster level is a moot point(in as much you cannot be below 3rd level arcane caster to cast invisibilty) as it is a level 2 spell (so must be at least 3rd level arcane caster) and you already have the...

The more the characters adventure..the more experienced they get..hence the better search skill. You have 5 players in your group with a time limit in a dungeon and they have adventured for quite some time, then they will know how to search quicker as well as better. You should not need to...

The player is not finding/disabling the traps. The character is and he is the one who has the knowledge. The player should have the knowledge to make sure the character has the skills to find/disable. You could make the players say exactly what they are doing, but again the are not trap...

It would make your post void. I would think there is a post somewhere about this as I am curious myself. I would think that yes you could as sound can be heard underwater just as humans (taking a liberty here) are not equipped to understand it perfectly. The component i would say may be a problem.

All I am saying is that sometimes you as the DM can interject something about the situation to make the players feel a certian way. I in no way suggest playing the character for them (unless charmed, feared, etc.). I was just showing what you can do to make those certain things in your...

LOL..you were doing so well on the first 499. Do you roleplay out the traps in your game? Do you take in account that you cannot ever state what the characters feel for they must say exactly what the they are doing? oh yea I forgot it is funnier to make fun of people. You are such a scamp :D

Your sweating because IT is the 500th one and the odds are getting smaller of disabling all the traps..or did you miss one?

I think that is exactly it on knowing what the spell can do.

Also doesn't the user of said item know the limitations of the scroll, staff, etc? If so you can use this knowledge to do what you wish with the spell.

I do not believe you can do a tumble because run is a full round action and you lose your Dex as a result..even though that may not affect Tumble.

You can also as the DM semi-roleplay it out.. Your standing on the slighty discolored flagstone on the floor, almost, but not quite like the rest of the floor. The sweat trickles down as you understand the signifigance of the warning from earlier. "one is the key to succeed in your quest for...

You 100% correct I was thinking of something entirely different at the time. Don't remember what it was though. With that said then you cannot make just the scroll itself permancy then use it to make something permanent. The scroll itself must be what you want to make permanent on...

I understand this, but it is not a item creation feat. I am saying that the scroll itself can be done without making something/someone have the permanant spell cast on it/them. The user of the scroll should be made to lose exp if he uses the scroll with the spell he wants to make...

So if what you say is true..then a empowered, maximized bull's strength would be: max=5, then 2-5 more added to it? Than what I thought that it would be: max=5 then empowered 1.5x5 = 7.5(which i think you always round down) so 7. That would be better except in the fireball case. As far as...

I was unsure what the average of the d6. I did not know that you could do a 2x empowered fireball, so that is using the empowered feat twice, correct? I still like the maximized empowered fireball as it does a straight 90 hps, but the extra slot is a lot.

Why not just say whoever uses the scroll, and makes whatever spell permenant with it, take the exp loss when it is cast with the appropiate spell.

Thanks Icebear for pointing that out. I will drop it and if people want to say more ..then more power to them. Sometimes being wise and attempting to act wise is farther apart than you think.