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Don't give him any ideas! :p This system still needs to be extensively play-tested and carefully examined. If we can get it standing up at every level (low-levels and high levels), without depending on arbitrary rulings, I can seriously see it revolutionizing Challenge Ratings (no joke)...

Granted, I'm slow when it comes to all this math, but please bear with me... A party of four standard 1st level characters goes up against four 1st level hobgoblins and defeats them. The party is rated at CR 1 and weighs in at PEL 1. The hobgoblins are rated at CR 1 (0.9 for NPC fighter class +...

Fractional CR Indeed it does. I found myself doing this exact same thing in searching for some way to lower the inflated XP rewards. Let me also say that I love levels 1 through 3. They are my favorite to play. The mundane struggle is far more compelling than upper-to-epic level adventures. The...

Upper_Krust. Actually, as I understand those revisions, the total XP you award to a party of four would remain the same. But if a smaller party than four succeeds to defeat an opponent, then rather than gain the whole amount, each party member only receives 1/4 of the XP total. Meaning, as I...

Upper_Krust. So if the hobgoblins factor racial abilities like darkvision into their CR, then let's take a look at a 2nd level party of four going up against four 2nd level fighter hobgoblins. The player characters = PEL 2. Hobgoblins = PEL 9 That's a difference of +7. By your rules, this is...

Well I can't speak for anybody else, but I'm still trying to get a definitive answer as to whether or not you mean to add racial CR modifiers (like darkvision) to a monster (like hobgoblins) that advances as a character class (if their total racial modifier does not exceed +0.5)?

Re: Power Comparisons Speaking of the infamous 1st level character faced off against two CR 2 creatures, you are correct Eldorian (in that the 1st level character would be worth PEL –3 and that the two CR 2 creatures are worth EL 7). My initial XP assessment was flawed. I doubled the last line...

Something about Table 1–3 does seem over simplified. But I'm not sure how to go about changing it until Upper_Krust can illuminate us on the mechanics he used (assuming, as always, that they are not arbitrary).

Eldorian. I brought up protection from arrows as an afterthought. I've been talking about Twink the whole time! There's your selective perception. Look, don't acknowledge my existence. That's great! It lets me get to the bottom of all these lower-level (and now apparantly higher-level) CR...

If I'm not mistaken, the 4th level PC human fighter is EL9 (as for the 3rd level NPC fighter, EL5 is accurate assuming all things are rounded down). Meaning the XP reward should be 300 XP. If Table 1–3 is factored into the equation, this example would change to EL5 versus PEL5 and 1200 XP for...

Eldorian. You just based your entire argument on a 3rd level wizard with protection from arrows. At 1st level, Twink is going to need Dexterity in order to reach 3rd level (alive). Please stick to the example in the future rather than changing the parameters of the debate. ----- Upper_Krust...

That’s because I didn't feel a need to address it. Fortitude saving throws aside, I still feel that a high Dexterity comes up during battle much more often and in ways that are far more useful to sorcerers or wizards than a high Constitution. For someone who is devoted to the "pursuit of...

A few more quick questions... What's the EL of a single CR ½ creature? EL ½? And if I add +2 EL to a CR ½ creature, how do I calculate the final EL? EL ½ + EL 2 = EL 2 ½? Round down to 2?

demiurgeastaroth. Thanks, that cleared it right up ... and also gave me an idea. ----- Upper_Krust. If you can give me a definite answer on this subject ... that would be great. Right now I am calculating the two 2nd level fighter hobgoblins to be worth CR 2 each (1.8 with NPC wealth +0.2...

Upper_Krust. I'm trying to make sense of your mixed opponent rules. I still don't understand how 241.6R% of a Base Unit EL 24 comes to 26? I thought that perhaps it was 241.6R% of the Great Red Dragon CR56. But that would come to CR135 and an EL of 29. What am I doing wrong?

Eldorian. You're being selective now. I didn't say that wizards avoid combat ... period. (Perhaps my Twink example wasn't proof enough?) Wizards avoid "melee" combat by casting spells behind the fighter-type meat sponges. Because of that fact, Constitution isn't as relevant to wizards as...

The only meaningful Google reference to Magical Affinity refers to a feat that allows characters to take ranks of a skill called "Affinity". Does anybody know if this is what the 3.5e Magical Affinity feat is about?

Eldorian. For all the times that Dexterity will come in useful (you list these yourself; AC, initiative, ranged combat, Reflex saving throws; basically during every combat), making that attribute higher than Constitution will be far more useful to wizards than the one or two extra hit points...

I just got my computer working again last night, so let’s start at the beginning. I’ll keep this brief. ----- seasong. Not trying to get last word at all. It just looked like you were stepping off the debate and I was trying to respect that. Far be from me to do so again. Even at 30 feet, I...

Howdy Seasong. I have since read your subsequent post. If you wish to leave it at that, I understand. Otherwise, I submit the following insights. We could not disagree more. :) I dropped nothing. I took the default array "as is" without converting it into points. I did so to embrace an...