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RPGs really are a different beast from cardgames and war games though. People think differently about metagaming for a reason.

I'm not happy with any of those, and avoid them whenever I can get away with it without my 5e loving players revolting. What do you mean by hard armor limits?

To be fair, I can't think of a game more different mechanically from Gamma World than Apocalypse World in the same genre.

Give me an example other that dead horse known as hit points, and we'll talk.

Why? Where's the value in cutting stuff from the books? Other than to WotC of course.

All that does is force people to buy another book. Good for WotC's treasure room, I guess.

Just seems like a waste of money to me. Not sure what the D&D DMG provides that the other two don't (or at least T&T for A5e; I don't have TotV's DM book yet.

I don't recall anyone saying they wanted to mess with a player or their PC. That's your conclusion, and IMO it is wrong.

I don't want to badger any player, but part of the class narrative of the class the player chose is that they receive their power through an agreement with a patron. That patron IMO needs to matter to the campaign.

I don't like re-skinning, and I don't accept it as an objective good by any means. More an occasional necessary evil when improvising.

None of those classes have the narrative of getting their power directly from another being. Apples and non-apple fruits.

Clerics and paladins are IMO no less bound than warlocks.

One: sometimes they do. Depends on the god. Certainly other members of the faith might take a more active role. Two: warlocks patrons (mostly) seem to have a more intimate relationship with their warlocks.

Well, I get immersion from setting logic, but it's a thing on its own.

Well, except the stakes are a bit higher in the combat example.

I did say "most" of the changes.

You mean, like a warlock?

And the minion rules are even more so.

PCs didn't die in 4e either, much.

Why wouldn't the players like the changes? Most of them make their PCs stronger.