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see, the great part about this is...it's voluntary. so those who want to horde away their OGC will just not contribute, and eventually it will fall apart due to lack of information. Phil obviously doesn't want his stuff given away free, so I wouldn't see him rushing to post all his stuff up...

Yay! I get to get into this little debate again!!! And why is it a worthless measure? Is value for the dollar not a valid measurement anymore? Somehow it's now if the book changes my level of happiness for the dollar? It wouldn't be valid if publishers were pricing products the same, but now...

Ahh, too many posts coming in too fast, I can't keep up with all the subconversations. My bad.

Nope. It's up there. In HTML, although alot of it is yellow text on white background, so it is 'crippled' a bit. I still think it's awesome that he does that.

I'm sorry that it irritates you, but it is no implication. None at all. It's been discussed in meta. I've discussed it in many threads. The attitude has been provided right in this thread, although the specific person never came back to explain himself. Your argument of the buffet is flawed...

Tell that to those who bought the SRD PDFs when they came out. :)

I see it like this: Me: "Ford, I'd like to buy a car." Dealer: "Ok." Me: "Now I'm just going to part it out and sell it off for more than what I paid for it." Dealer: "Wait. According to your purchaser license you're allowed to, but as a dealer I think this is a crappy deal. Only dealers like...

I agree with Crothian. It would hurt publishers of short OGC products from guys like you, gareth, and louis more than it would hurt someone like Mongoose or RPGObjects. I would still buy RPGObjects books because they are full of goodies and not just single bits of material. That, and like I've...

You trusted the wrong group of people. We want, want, want, free, free, free...yet we'll blow $100 on a dungeon then come here and complain about it. Gamers are odd folks.

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Anyone who wants to discuss this real time, I'm in the #d20modern channel on the EN world chat server (chat.psionics.net). I personally invite joe and phil (phil even moreso) because I would enjoy discussing this directly with them.

Is there that much left to do that hasn't already been done 20 times before? There are times when I really think people are writing up stuff JUST to be a publisher and have products out there so they can join the 'BOYS CLUB.' Do we need another variant sorceror? Variant bard? Spells...come...

I see it as the foresight to not involve yourself into a legal battle. Monte has made plenty of dubious OGC declarations, and I believe he is probably #1 of the publishers I speak of who are given free tools to go out and create games and make money, yet don't want to play by the same rules and...

Phil, I have no doubt that you love the game. And no doubt that most publishers love the game. Love is not money, and you cannot buy a house with love. You certainly have the right to do what you do, and if anyone thinks otherwise, they are mistaken. However, when someone else wants to do the...

I still don't get why publishers opt to 'open' things that are not required to be open. If you're concerned about your flavor text being reproduced, then by all means close it. As a consumer, and maybe someday publisher, I could care less about your text. The fact that someone released the...

The problem is when you as a publisher object to someone else's legal right to make your content free. Not saying it SHOULD be, and I think other feel the same way...but you're so worried about it becoming free, that you are in essence trying to add (purely implied) restrictions on your open...

Ok, I apologize for that one. What I meant was that you're not doing it only for the 'love of the game' as so many athletes say when making 10 million dollar salaries. If you were doing it ONLY for that, you'd just put good stuff out for nothing. But the fact still stands that if you can't...

With all due respect Gareth, I doubt you have the slightest idea of the intentions of the document either. Posting insults towards other posters is rude. If you think that you are somehow better than some of the posters who are not publishers, I welcome you to explain how you know so much more...

Phil, what do you have to say about one of my above solutions about opening up more in return for an inline plug when inserting ogc?

Sure. Stop writing books with only 17 items in it. People may want it, but if you're THAT worried about the compilation, you are the only one that can decide if you'll make your minimum profit before it gets disseminated for free. If you don't meet that goal, don't write the product. As much as...