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I think the new edition is not opening to the mainstream, but venturing into its own very specialized niche - tiefling and dragonborn serve as good examples of "D&Disms" that are not really familiar to anyone outside D&D. Maybe it would have been better to broaden the game, offer more options...

There's no need or reason to talk further with you if you honestly believe pulling the PDFs of OOP editions had anything to do with battling piracy.

Please... try to find a better example. The PDFs I was buying were already copied. I was buying OOP ones of older editions. Pulling them back did not change anything with regards to piracy, and WotC as anyone who did not ignore the realities of the internet knows this. No, the only reason older...

They did have a product I enjoyed, the OOP PDFs. And they removed that. I do not know many businesses who would remove a product from cirulation that cuased them no cost at all, and pure profit, unless there's another motive - like "make them all buy the new edition".

That's exaclty what they did by removing the products I was buying.

You're wrong. Up until Monday I was a customer of WotC. Then they decided they did not want to sell me old edition PDFs anymore. WotC doesn't want to do business with me anymore.

Very interesting, and from someone who knows the business very well.

How many of you value looks over functionality when it comes to characters? How many wear or use something that's not as good as it could be just because it looks better?

I always consider the DMs more likely to be hardcore gamers and visting forums. And I consider DMs to have a levered influence on the gaming habits of their groups - I know that I won't run games I don't like, for once, which has a rather big influence on what kind of games my group plays. So...

With me it's the opposite. There are a number of people that reacted so callously that I am seriously recosndiering the worth of visiting this site. I'd have expected some sympathy at least for being cut off from purchasing older edition material that's out of print, but I should have known...

Paizo also offers a very good deal on PDFs. As an example: If you subscribe to their adventure path then the PDFs are free with the book purchase.

Again, by removing older edition PDFs they are not winning any customers, they are losing customers - unless they actually beleive by removing older PDFs they can force people to buy 4E.

I'd be willing to be patient if I was offered anything that even remotedly made sense as a reason. As it is I was either lied to, or - if WotC really did what they did for the reasons given - they are incredibly ignorant of the reality of today's internet and economy. I somehow doubt that the...

Not at all. There is a world of difference between someone stealing a slice of pizza and someone stealing 1 Million, especially with regards to how much of a punishment you get. There's also a world of difference between doing something illegal and causing damage to someone, and doing something...

Again I doubt that. They pulled all pdfs, even from editions that haven't been sold as print books since decades.

That's 4E. For 3E material there is: Buy second-hand print copy. Download pirated pdf. Neither alternative makes WotC any money. Stopping the sale of 3E material was not done to battle piracy.

Another thing to consider is that the moral barrier to pirate is lowered a lot if you're not pirating instead of buying the product, but pirating a product the producer made unavailable and does not even want to sell. It's really hard to sing the "oh, you are an evil criminal!" tune if you're...

Same here. WotC doesn't want my money anymore.

I am honestly telling you that I can't buy a number of books I wanted anymore, and that has an impact on my game. The material is, being 3.5E, not available in the compendium either. Buying the stuff second-hand hardcopy would mean I can't use it very well due to weight and space issues. So...

I stand corrected. Although the "I can't lug that many books around" argument stands. Though, given the tone in thsi thread I don't expect much sympathy at all from some people. As long as they are not affected they do not care.