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This is the aspect of your initial post that sits most uncomfortably with me, and I've been watching the thread to see if the conversation would make it more palatable or at least understandable. Is it fair to rephrase this part of your view as "Uncertain outcome alone is not a good reason to...

Honestly, I was wrestling with how to describe it, and this gets closest. I really don't care how much we "accomplish," as long as the players were invested, excited, showed they cared about the narrative, the world, the atmosphere we're all trying to create, and we were all on the same page...

I disagreed with it not out of dislike, but because I do not find it to be as factual as you claim it is, nor as objective as your framing. Your previous comment and the remainder of this post does little to convince me of the bulk of your perspective. I do understand the argument you're...

I'd like to express my disagreement with this conclusion in the strongest possible terms. Engaging with mechanics meant to model their character is absolutely playing their character*, and participating in the game. *Even if I agreed with your premise, that still leaves that that particular...

A quote from Brennan Lee Mulligan in adventuring party that really re-adjusted my framing of this issue in a similar sense: Their framing is about confidence in improvisation, but it feels very applicable. But, I did leave in Taylor Moore's disagreement, because it's personal, and I get why...

Whatever best suits the players, the game, or the need of the situation at hand, there's no inherent or objective superiority to either method.

I just went and looked this up a month or so ago to see if there had been any progress. I'm still pretty disappointed, but honestly, more so about the idea not coming to fruition than about a good chunk of my money going into the ether.

Would you mind sharing just a rough idea of how close they are / how much is completed at this point?

I'm curious, it's not immediately obvious to me. What do you parse as the difference between (i) and (iv)? Given that (iv) explicitly includes the premise/themes at hand, it's hard for me to see offhand how that isn't a dramatic story beat. Is it that (i) is not necessarily conflict charged? Is...

Seriously, it's honestly been a bit of a turn-off, some of the particular sequences I've heard talked about. It's not the reason I haven't gotten around to it, I know I will with time, but it certainly hasn't helped.

I do think I'd struggle heavily with this, even if I'm tempted by the active encouragement of the system. Both on a personal attachment to character level, and a not wanting to blow things up for my crew / fellow players. I know it's the point, I know it's a goal, I know it's meant to happen, I...

Seriously. Of the things likely to make the game difficult for myself, constantly testing the limits of their good-will and patience seem like an incredibly direct avenue.

Not to ignore the rest of your excellent post, but to address just this: If a player's goal method/process to create immersion is to inhabit a character mind to the best of their ability (or, say, play a character who is similar to yourself, where your personal reactions can hew as close to...

I say this as someone who wants to run Brindlewood Bay badly: There is a incredible gulf in the sort of experience and enjoyment that comes from solving a mystery that a GM has plotted thoroughly in advance and one that is malleable and actively shaped by the players' input.

I mean, here's the quote being discussed (which again, is specifically from a free, introductory adventure designed for new and young Dungeons & Dragons players): Regardless of if you agree with their specific stance, it's clear the people arguing against those instances don't agree and are not...

I mean, all you really need rules wise is the PHB, I paid less than $50 for my pre-order, and that's a pretty small price to pay to upgrade a game I've enjoyed for quite some time, and want to continue with.

All of the these are brand new to me, and in rough order of active interest: Mothership Heart Wildsea Trophy Dark Yazeba's Bed and Breakfast That said, the number one thing I actively want is to run a new 5e campaign of some sort, using the current rules.

Oh, absolutely, framing partial success and complications is absolutely my biggest stumbling block in running Blades or other games that ask that. I think it's just that the potential consequence was framed as not definite, and also, delayed to some point in the future if it did arise, yet still...

Thank you for writing that up! Very interesting that he took that partial success as a no-win response, but given that, I now absolutely can understand freezing when you feel like you're in that position. Glad that it was a fruitful conversation.

I totally understand if you want to maintain their privacy, or just don't remember or feel like sharing, but I have to admit I'm fairly curious about the course of that conversation, both their perspective and how the instigating issue was resolved.