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Not mine. Forbidden fruit is sweetest, after all. Gonna be a fun week. Try and enjoy it.

This will happen to one degree or another, as I'm sure Wizards knows full well. Actually, I assume they're hoping playtesters will leak sporadic reports---the community frantically hitting F5 for the latest blurry scans and samizdat is far more engaging than a prosaic document dump, IMHO.

"Disappointment? Don't talk to me about disappointment."

Because that +1 Bohemian Ear-Spoon would look great above the fireplace in our stronghold. Just as soon as we schlep up those eight levels to the surface. ;)

Hoo boy. If ENWorld posters handled a brand new edition of D&D the same way Blizzard posters greet a change in a single Death Knight talent tree, Morrus would throw the servers out a window and take up beekeeping.

In game-time, he even gets them in time for the next encounter ;)

I would like to take this opportunity to express how pleasantly surprised I've been with the tone on this board overall. Yes, there are some doomsayers, but for the most part this community has been positive, constructive, and open-minded. I've had many pleasant exchanges with former enemies...

Did that a lot in my last campaign (1st to 30). If a player found an item they liked, I would raise its level every few adventures and add the difference in value as a parcel. And yes, wish lists really helped me in that game.

Say what you will about 4e's magic economy, but one thing I don't miss about the good ol' days was lugging around bags of holding filled to bursting with magic items nobody wanted---or needed.

It was annoying to be honest. We'd all wished we'd been playing in a 1e module so at least he could grab one of the dozens of magic weapons lying around to replace our losses.

Not quite correct. It simply renders your item down to its value in residuum, leaving you in your underwear and/or armed with a stick until you can a) get back to town and get new equipment or b) wait around for a ritual-casting PC to make something for you of his level or lower.

I didn't even *realize* there were retraining rules until I saw them in the character builder. I usually just let layers change whatever they want between sessions (or during a session if it doesn't slow down play).

Last month in a rust monster destroyed our 8th-level fighter's +2 greataxe (an uncommon level 10 item). While it was nice to get the value of the item back, there was no way he could *replace* a weapon that powerful on his own. He'd either have to have our wizard enchant a lesser 7th-level...

Good point. Cutting a rust monster open and *not* finding residuum (essentially magical rust) would strain my disbelief to the breaking point. Verisimili-dude.

The problems I see stem not from fans wanting their edition to "win", but from wanting other editions to "lose".

My last 4e game went from 1st to 30th, my current game started at 1st, is currently at 10th and we intend to go to 30th as well.

Ahhhh. Thanks! Just read it. Looks like I have a new house rule. ;)

Fire Archon (4e's fire elemental) in the Monster Vault has resist 20 fire. Am I missing something?

Give me a B/E retroclone with some of the more archaic rules modernized and streamlined and I will be thrilled.

ಠ_ಠ I had the same exact group of players in both versions of the game, yet with only one game system did I have to deal with the problems enumerated above. So either five people miraculously stopped being 'malcontents and 'incompetents' , or the new system effectively addressed the issues we...