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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Inclusion of gay characters: Don't really care. Inclusion of straight characters: Don't really care. Using media to as a way to promote any ideology, whether I agree, disagree, or am unsure about: Wrong medium. Find a podium.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Actually, I like and support the message. Next?
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Because I mentioned this as a throw away comment and have spent the last 20 pages having to explain myself. Oh, the wonders of the internet.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Yeah, I'm getting tired trying to keep up with so many trains of thought at the same time. My ability to notice what words I'm use to find grammatical errors in my writing has been reduced to 0. As I've said. Adding gays = good. Adding gays to advance an ideology (even one I agree with) =...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Um...When have I ever said I was against including anyone? Please stop with the blatant misrepresentation of my views.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Would you disagree if you didn't like the message?
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Now the discussion ends. We agree to disagree. And we leave it.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Once again, no problem with black characters. No problem with gay characters. The problem lies in the sentence, "I wasn't going to send out another book with no..." Once again, minor point. I honestly regret starting this discussion because it makes all sides of the issue look ridiculous for...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    I said nothing as to the portrayal of these NPCs - because it is irreverent. I am discussing Crawford's statements not the NPCs. As I have said dozens of times, I have no argument against the inclusion of NPCs, only the motivation behind their origin as professed by Crawford.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    I defined my use of the word propaganda several times. To be clear, here it is (and yes, I'm using a sterile meaning of it because a more appropriate term hasn't come to my head yet): Propaganda: information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Republic of Georgia (not the US state). And no, WotC, as a company, shouldn't care about people here on a professional level.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Propagandist phrases: 1. “I wasn’t about to have this book go out and not acknowledge..." 2. "It’s important ... for the game to acknowledge our existence." (Specifically the word "important." I don't included the rest of the quote because the word important standing there alone doesn't make...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Wholehearted agree with everything you're just said. Adding gays in adventure: good. Adding gays to make ideological point (even if I agree with that ideology): bad - because it's the wrong medium to discuss the issue.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    I did. The key word in my post is "merely." You may have missed it.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Exactly. Correct message, wrong medium. It's as simple as that. Like I said to the other guy, I live in a country in which being gay can get the local priest to ask his choir boys to come over and drown you in a river - and it's not a uncommon occurrence. It's a sensitive topic. Honestly, I...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    It is neither biased not misleading. It is the presentation of information to promote a point of view, something I'm not sure it best done in a game, but in a clear, focused, healthy debate.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    The designer being gay is irrelevant. If he was straight, I wouldn't care. If he was merely including something from his only life, I wouldn't care. In fact, I would commend him, but using a game to openly push an agenda instead of dealing with it in a logical, factual way is ludicrous.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    I'm America. I live here by choice. I feel like I'm making a real difference in the world (maybe I actually am) by doing workshops and summer camps with teenagers in which we discuss issue of bride napping, female circumcision, honor killings, tolerance, etc. My plan was to leave after two...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    No. It's a great agenda - my opinion. But propaganda is not the right way to advance one's ideology - also my opinion.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Don't take this the wrong way, but, Dude, I live in a country in which being gay can get the local priest to ask his choir boys to come over and drown you in a river - and it's not a uncommon occurrence. It is sensitive topic. Honestly, I would be doing it just as much for your safety as I would...
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