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Definitely want it, but I want other stuff too.

He'll become a cleric of Banjo the Clown. Duh.

Yeah, that happens to me too pretty often. These are indeed important questions to consider. Another important one is "What will that padding include?" In my experience, extremely limited abilities (1/week or whatnot) are usually utility in nature, like being able to resurrect someone with no...

I see where I'm being unclear. The issue isn't one round of nova-ing or whatnot, as you correctly point out. This issue should be endeavoring to solve the problem of groups who have 4 nice, average encounters but still have to call it a day before noon simply because they're out of resources...

Time is a mechanical resource. You seem to be the only person who argues that it isn't. Raven, it's pretty clear that you're not familiar with nova-ing. A nova character is designed to do something like this: Swift Action – Extended Temporal Acceleration (augmented to 3 rounds) Temporal...

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "cost" here. To clarify, what sort of cost would you apply to resting to make it appropriate, were you facing this problem? I think the problem here is that Raven assumes that groups suffering from the 15-minute adventuring day have nova-type players...

Curse you and your law, Murphy! However, I still don't see how this follows. You're essentially arguing that so long as players can control how they regain resources, it follows that they'll be encouraged to nova. Remember that if you argue that the cost for resting for 8 hours is low, then...

The topic discussed in this thread just proves how much the 4e designers are influenced by a subject I know little or nothing about and have never actually experienced personally, but I can always tell with unfailing accuracy when someone is trying to push it on me!

So what connects the encounters and challenges in your game? What gives them context? Why to the characters head off to explore the dungeon in the first place? I'm not being snarky. I honestly want to know what your approach is to creating/playing in an adventure.

So D&D shouldn't attempt to emulate popular fantasy fiction or support gameplay models as well as it does Gygaxian exploration? Are there any threads that complain about "sameness for sameness' sake"? ;) But in all seriousness, everything we've seen so far just seems to suggest that the game...

Maneuver: Dire Kitten Riposte (attack with all the fierceness of the most deadly creature ever to fell a commoner) Tradition: Polymorphic Reconfoobulation (just adjust the magical whatchyacallits and reconfusle the manamotron) Class: Locklord (a master of keys, or possibly lakes, or maybe of...

But the problem is that D&D is meant to represent the genre presented in fantasy fiction (including High Fantasy and Swords & Sorcery). Within that genre, there are very few (if any outside of D&D fiction) where characters have to rest because they've "run out of spells". A spellcaster resting...

1984. Big Brother was watching, so I poked him in the eye.

You've got my vote!

Only if you finally get them to include the Dancing Baby as a prestige class ;)

My appologies. And you still have yet to demonstrate that there is no cost to spend your more powerful per-day abilities. Indeed, from a game-mechanics point of view, if you argued that a resource which you could regain by resting for eight hours had no cost, since they can be reset so easily...

And why does that logic not apply to per-encounter resources? I don't think so. For example: Now, given what pemerton was responding to, what are A and B in this context? I discuss players choosing to use resources, so the choice involved must be A. Presumably, then, A represents the...

If and only if you can regain the ability immediately following an encounter with no cost. This was a problem in 3e with casters novaing and spending a day's worth of resources quickly and then resting, avoiding the power curve designers predicted which would bring casters into line with...

I'm sorry, but as you wrote this, it's borderline incomprehensible. You seem to be saying that you can always regain an offensive ability but not always regain damage, so every single offensive ability (even the most powerful ones) are less valuable than any healing ability. That doesn't make...

And I think that this is important to address the point pemerton made about being able to challenge the player, even if the characters themselves aren't particularly at-risk. A non-mechanical example of this would be a puzzle like the riddle at the entrance to Moria in Fellowship. In a...