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    D&D 5E (2014) With Respect to the Door and Expectations....The REAL Reason 5e Can't Unite the Base

    So did I (XPH classes in an otherwise 3.0 game). And I played 2e when the DM was using 1e and Basic adventures. But it doesn't change that there were a lot of fiddly differences between core 3.0 and 3.5; I never played 1e, but it seems to me that 3.0->3.5 was a similar level of change to 1e->2e.
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    Leif's "Revenge of the Giants" [4E] [IC 01]

    Yeah, but I figured Sariel would normally use Linked Portal to cover long distances so keeping a horse around would be inconvenient. But if we've got a fairly long trek to an unknown location ahead, mounts would be nice; for a shorter trip, especially if speed is of the essence, she'd summon...
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    D&D 5E (2014) How Can D&D Next Win You Over?

    Remember that TSR was in a terrible financial mess for most 2e's lifetime. It's likely a healthy TSR would have launched a third edition sooner, at least by a few years.
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    Leif's "Revenge of the Giants" [4E] [IC 01]

    ... but one casting of Phantom Steed is cheaper than 4 horses and faster for a day.
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    Leif's "Revenge of the Giants" [4E] [IC 01]

    Sariel showed little surprise when Durn gave his name; like Baramos, he had something of a reputation even if she had never worked with him before. "I don't suppose you have the pattern of a teleportation circle in Argent?" Sariel asks their hosts. She doesn't think it's likely, but it's...
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    A Warrior, a Weaponmaster and a Swordsage walk into a tavern ...

    I voted all three were okay, but I wouldn't play the first one, and I doubt it would be balanced with the other two.
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    Leif's "Revenge of the Giants" [4E] [OOC 01]

    I don't think we want to press on with just three, given who's left; Sariel is better at granting melee basic attacks than ranged, and no one who's left has a great melee basic attack (though Heise has a great ranged basic attack).
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    Can someoone explain the "Daily Hate" for me?

    Daily abilities aren't in themselves terrible, but it's hard to balance classes with daily abilities against classes without them and a lot of people hate martial daily abilities, so I wouldn't object to going the other way and ditching daily abilities for everyone.
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    A difficult question

    I'm less convinced of this, because if OSIRIC could essentially reverse engineer 1e from the d20 SRD, I think you could probably get at least as close to 4e. On the other hand, without the online tool support, 4e fans might well end up gravitating to something like 13th Age rather than a full-on...
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    A DM by any other name

    I've always thought of 'mother-may-I' problems as something completely different -- rules that require a lot of fiddly little checks to do something. i.e. 1e fans bemoan that 3e eliminated a lot of balancing factors for casters (casting was much harder to disrupt between the concentration skill...
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    Leif's "Revenge of the Giants" [4E] [IC 01]

    "I've heard of Argent." Sariel says, then relays what she knows. OOC: she tells everyone what she learned from the History check (and isn't redundant with what they've already been told).
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    Leif's "Revenge of the Giants" [4E] [OOC 01]

    Paging @Knowledge Checks and @DistractingFlare , since now that Leif and Scotley have started things it would be nice to see everyone ... http://www.enworld.org/forum/playing-game/327319-leifs-scotleys-revenge-giants-d-d-4th-edition-ic-01-a.html#post5983502
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    [Adventure] Rhapsody Part 2 (Judge: renau1g)

    After a few hours of rest and prayer, Narvala returns to the Shard's common room looking refreshed and as unruffled as she normally does.
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    [4e] drothgery's arcane game - Clash of Steel

    Unfortunately, there's not much physical evidence left at the scene of the assault by the time Silas, Althaea, and Soril get there, save for the bodies of the watchmen. The River Rats' observer is still lingering, however.
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    [4e] drothgery's arcane game - Clash of Steel

    Between Tatterde's ability to talk to animals and Teclis' shapeshifting ability, they manage to set up to follow the cat familiar around without it noticing. After a while, the cat finds an otherwise empty room (save for other cats -- and Teclis in disguise) and sits in once place and stares off...
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    Leif's "Revenge of the Giants" [4E] [IC 01]

    Sariel, LG eladrin warlord 12 (battle captain) "You are Baramos Rathmore, then?" Sariel asked. She knew of the dragonborn only by reputation, but few would wear the clothes and carry the arms he did, even fewer would be invited to a gathering such as this, and she thought only one of those...
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    Leif's "Revenge of the Giants" [4E] [IC 01]

    Sariel, LG eladrin warlord 12 (battle captain) "You know even my father cannot command Myth Drannor's armies on his bare word? The only sword I can offer is my own. But I would see this threat dealt with." A short, beautiful young eladrin woman with a rapier on her hip said, with rather more...
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    Leif's "Revenge of the Giants" [4E] [OOC 01]

    I don't know the adventure details (and don't we have half a paladin, and so half a divine caster?), but as we've already been through, Sariel's a perfectly capable healer. The other big thing divine casters are good for are being the radiant mafia, which really helps when fighting undead (and...
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    Leif's "Revenge of the Giants" [4E] [OOC 01]

    I was just about to ask that myself ... Cool. I want to see how my hyperactive princess warlord works out ...
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    [4e][OOC] Clash of Steel [13th level]

    Sorry for letting things drag; I'll try to move things along some later today or tomorrow (first my parents were around, then got sucked into the Olympics). Though I'll actually be working at least for the next couple of weeks.
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