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mostly done with the stat blocks, and will update in homebrews when i get the chance. Special Qualities: (darkvision or low-light vision?), spell-like abilities Skills: 4 Suggested Skills: Concentration 1, Diplomacy 1, Escape Artist 1, Hide 1, Knowledge (religion) 1, Profession (farmer) 2...

to keep it simple, i agree with all of that. ;) will update in homebrews when i have the chance.

those sound fine to me. :) i was also considering Endurance, Iron Will, and Toughness. i agree with ditching Improved Unarmed Strike, as that never seems to be necessary for legitimate slam attacks. absolutely - it seems silly not to. ;)

heh well, DR 15/slashing or piercing then? or DR 20?

sure, that should work. it should also negate any concealment penalties from fog or mist as regards the mephit.

well, i guess i could live with that, then. :)

well, we could keep them with (say) a Con of 12 (not a Cha of 6, please!) and give them a super bonus vs. disease, poison, and the like. i think 2E dwarves used to get something like that.

So then, how do you want to deal with the immunities? :) Steam mephitis in 2E do not appear to have any such special sight ability.

Do you like the idea of increasing the base slam damage? Yes, I see that a crit (and we do have Improved Crit) would cause damage more comparable to the old stat block, but I think we could do a bit better than what we have. Actually, I see "Half damage from piercing weapons" rather than...

They may not work perfectly with the standard array. The flavor text did say that adults have Con scores of 16-18. their Int was from 8-10, so if we need to take a penalty there (I would make Int no lower than 9), we can do that. I think we wanted to avoid a Cha penalty since they are Clerics...

the AC will wind up being higher than 10 when all is said and done - but not necessarily by a lot. the Dex will be ridiculously low, and there is of course a size penalty. the AC will probably wind up being somewhere near 20 when all is said and done. will comment more on this guy over the...

oddly enough, we have a Dex of 9, but get penalties to Int and Cha instead? ;)

i don't believe we had done anything regarding ability score modifiers vs. straight ability scores.

http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=2931220&postcount=2 i'm surprised shade hasn't said anything yet. ;)

you still there shade? ;)

water certainly seems to make sense. :)

works for me. :) how about an "ondonti as characters" section? i'll work on some flavor text today as i get the opportunity. i'm thinking that maybe they should not start out with any weapon proficiencies, since they are pacifistic by nature (i.e., not even simple weapons).

author and article name? :D

there's no official limit, but i'd like to keep it low; just one or two most of the time. there are a few other things i want to work on before coming back to this thread. :)

sure; it won't affect much. :) how would that be written?