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I feel like the power in question is very important. Dual lightning strike is an effect, but the effect is "You teleport X squares and make a secondary attack." Now I understand where people are coming from with the understanding that miss and hit effects shouldn't be allowed. But is it that...

Who declared himself God of logic and decided that you had to point an implement at someone to use it effectively. Seriously - pick up a walking stick, hold it vertical in one hand, now tilt it towards anything. Easy Pick up a greatsword hold it blade down vertical in one hand, now tilt it...

You don't have to wield the weapon as though it WERE a weapon. I imagine a badass wizard who uses his greatsword implement as his walking stick. Channeling arcane power through a weapon does not mean you need to be even able to wield it effectively.

I suppose it could be. But my whole point is why point that out in a completely separate property of the armor. You could just as easily (and in my opinion they WOULD have) said the whole thing without that confusing long freaking property and just said at the end of the power: The Genasi...

My useless thread shall be reborn forever!

I won't berate you for making this thread and re-opening for the second time in two days a topic that sears me so. But I reserve the right to hate you.

That is just incorrect to the Nth degree. What do you base that statement on? Hit is just substantially better than damage.

Not the best weapon for a crit-fisher. If I wanted to know that, I would've asked. I'm just asking for a simple aveger, no messed up Optimized craziness.

Seems like a simple question but is it? What do you consider the best overall weapon for an avenger and does it depend on the type of avenger played.

I don't want to get into a thing about it, and don't really want to explain WHY I feel this way, but I don't believe they intended for double 2's to hit and crit unless they hit the targets defense.

the results are almost negligibly different when they were posted... so yeah. I think it was something like between a .5% and 2% extra chance to crit if you read it the more player favorable way. The discrepancy between discrepancies is based on your build.

customer service has given both points of view.... so yeah.

I don't see Regicide's point. More choices = better. More options could never ever be bad.

interestingly enough... White lotus feats. I just don't like the idea of at-wills becoming more powerful than encounter powers. I made the call after my Swordmage told me his ridiculous plan for swordburst.

Please stop misrepresenting his argument. He never said that effects should only occur on hits, and I believe you know that.

The PCs in my campaign rarely have items BELOW their level, it makes them powerful, but hey I'm having fun. I also don't allow about half of both the adv and adv 2.

You can take a move action and then charge, ending (your movement speed X 2) away from where you started. But you can't take two move actions and then charge, ending (your movement speed X3) away from where you started. Depends what you mean by full movement.

Ummm.... it does. And btw we both answered one of each of his questions. My post was just funnier.

They are well perfectly balanced, extremley wonderful and are the 4th sign of the second coming of our lord and savior Jesus Christ.

What is gained through not allowing it? A better understanding and predictability for the players and the DM of what can be expected of powers. What is gained through allowing it? A better sense of creativity and an ability to suprise players and DMs. All things said, I like #1 more Sorry if...