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This is probably a dumb question, but why not just make him a demilich rather than giving it to him via Lord of the Skull? Presumably a template can't be Abrogated. I must be missing something.

I'd be really hesitant to hand something like that out. The fact of the matter is, there shouldn't really be normal mortals at this level. If they've gotten this high without ascending to godhood, they probably have some other means of boosting their HP, among other things, either through...

o_O You do? I've been using your rule so far... Not a tough fix, though. And Shunpo is similar to an ability from Deities and Demigods, I believe. Kind of surprised UK never included one like that.

Oh. I long ago adopted the 4-artifact (or "signature item that levels up with you") rule for everyone for my own games. I kind of don't like having lots of magic items on characters, if you couldn't tell from my stat blocks. :p Nevermind, then, that makes sense for the normal rules.

What I'm contending is that the excess abilities the class gives (i.e. all the free +ECL abilities beyond the 10 ECL the class is worth) would be roughly equivalent to the value of an artifact/soul object for the Immortal taking this class. Though, what do you do if they don't have any? They...

I rather like that sacrifice idea as a prerequisite, and it would serve to balance it, I think.

That Touch AC prereq is very questionable. There's a reason you don't see such things normally. (That being that it's an extremely subjective and fluctuating stat, not to mention a derived stat) Also, handing out cosmic abilities as class features is really not a good idea. It's extremely...

I do have the spreadsheet, Neo, though I'm not sure how much use it will be of. I barely even remember the premise I made it under. Digging through our discussion at Dicefreaks might help on that front. To better explain the idea to Buugi, from what I can remember, it was an option to allow...

Oh, I do believe his auto-smite is factored in already. I think that Outlands suggestion works. And, okay, will change it quadruple.

*scratches head* Where's the +32 to attacks against non-TN opponents coming from? (I'm positive I'll feel like a moron when you tell me) Thanks for pointing out my error on those feats, will fix. Though, maybe those could be divine abilities with the feats as prerequisites... not that he has...

I think it's okay, it's a powerful ability, but that's what this tournament is all about. When you get a chance, if you could, let me know how Austere looks, I worry that his overall stats are kind of lacking, but, he gets a lot of situational bonuses, so I'm not sure. I'm not sure if not...

Okay, I have a new entrant. I... think he's more or less in line power-wise, though I know his sword is about 1.5 times what he should have, but he kind of needs to have it if he exists at all. It's pretty essential to his character. I actually might have short-changed him on divine abilities...

Damn, that is one hardcore bird. I'd say the most dangerous thing about it is the cosmic fire blood it has. Most of the fighters here who rely on lots of attacks will kill themselves before they kill it. I was gonna say Perfection might have a decent chance, but his beam will likely knock it to...

Okay, I'm thinking we're going to have to replace the Hekatonkheires with something else. They're just too overpowered with all those arms. Ideas for a replacement?

Well... I can think of a few things. Nerf or ban Improved Metamagic. Don't allow more than 1 quickened spell per round unless they can take additional Swift or Standard actions. Don't allow Automatic Metamagic to work with spells past 9th level. Separate Spell Mastery and Auto Metamagic. I...

So, I've been thinking of things to do with the Heka. Was considering Pseudonatural and throwing Intermediate Deity (of strength and destruction) on to it, Using Upper_Krust's Heka by the way. That only brings him up to ECL 153, though. Maybe add some class levels to him? I was considering...

^See, Neo? That's what I was trying to say earlier in the thread, but like I said, I suck with mages. :P Though, Buugi, that doesn't work with anyone who has Slipstream, right? (I've always thought all Sidereals should have that innately....) Also, Learned Spell Immunity applies to all...

You know... I was somehow under the impression that Alabaster's Evil Eye functioned as the Transcendental ability of the same name. Crazy, I know, right? It only applying a -12.... makes him substantially weaker than I thought he was. Oops. Edit: Also, I just noticed you allow Improved...

Oh, you still have the Hekatonkeires on the roster... I was kind of stumped on what to do with him. This is really, really out there, but would it be possible to make an archer build out of him, wielding 50 bows? I've never heard of such a thing and it sounds overpowered, but it would certainly...

Neo, page 2 of this thread has the Star-Shadow Dragon. There are a lot of other cool monsters in there, too. @Buugi, yeah, I was thinking along the same lines. At the very least, my Immortal Phane seems *CR* 72, not ECL 72, just at a glance (going by a rough estimate of how challenging he...