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To add something I've not talked about in the two previous threads: I believe a huge part of D&D's appeal, at least for me and my fellow players (and I play/run D&D in a very inclusive environment, not that it matters for the sake of this discussion), rests on the ability to bring to our...

According to The Complete Book of Humanoids (p. 49), an orc has a maximum Intelligence score of 16 and tends to lawful evil. The same source states that PC orcs can be of any alignment. 1e is not my thing, but I'm pretty sure your statement has been wrong for at least 25+ years.

It's not, really. I don't want to derail this thread (again...), but, while the basic premises of due process may change (and in fact, they change) in different systems, there's not even a way to translate "due process" that does not imply the same concept in countries that use a system based in...

As I've pointed in the other thread, I think these are mainly positive changes going forward. I'm more skeptical about the moral and cultural complexity of traditionally villainous races, though. And I'm even more skeptical about how to advance these objectives in a game with a framework that...

As someone who strongly believes that nonhuman races are interesting just as long as they allow us to have some fixed stereotypes in the game*, I must say this is the first time I read a really sound argument that may well have changed my opinion on the subject. Kudos, sir. * I once told a...

They did improve Law, though. While History of Law is not my field of expertise, I believe the concept of due process is a Roman invention. I love the concept of due process more than I love killing things and taking their stuff! :ROFLMAO:

Since you're insisting on debating my joke about itch.io RPG designers instead of my point about D&D tropes and colonialism (which I stated clearly at least three times), it's hard to say I'm the one fighting a strawman here. And if you're one of those game designers complaining about the...

I don't think the fact that I used the opportunity to make some fun of game designers who spend more time complaining about D&D on Twitter than actually, you know, making games, doesn't make it hard to understand my actual opinion on the issue. But I'll say it for the third time now: while I...

I don't need to. I think it's pretty clear from my post what are the issues I'm attacking. Anyone who believes the issue (nonexistent, in my opinion, because I still get to have one) of D&D fundamental tropes as means of perpetuating colonialism is real, is free to make a counterpoint. I suspect...

If you think putting 8 encounters into a single adventuring day is hard now, you'll see it when killing things and taking their stuff becomes old fashioned.

I ask myself what you're doing here, then. If I believed that, I wouldn't be playing D&D, and the last place I'd like to be is a message board full of people who play it. Maybe you're an icho.io indie game designer and is here to dissuade us to keep playing it? :ROFLMAO:

No, but now you're getting in the way of some guy who's trying to sell his unfun/untested game on itch.io and who keeps clinging to the possibility that people will eventually embrace his vision of "we must overcome D&D because it reinforces a colonial narrative. Play my story game about the...

And then... Walk past 90% of the challenges in the official adventures with only your crossbow shots? Great...

The problem is: you end up firebolting people not because you want to, but because this is what's usually available for your character to do. Much like the life cleric that probably casts about 2-3 sacred flames for every spell slot spent on heal/support. There's no "minor phantasmal killer"...

Indeed. And some of those races are described as usually evil. Of those usually evil races, most are described as dark-skinned, are inspired by real-world cultures, or both. It's very easy to understand why this was not an issue for a bunch of white wargamers in the middle of the US in 1973 (or...

Tolkien's orcs are an example of why a generic rework of this or that character can't solve it all. Each setting has its own answers and should be allowed to work with them. Melkor chose to become something lesser than he was, as the greatest of the original Valar, so that he could invest that...

Wouldn't it be much easier (and better) to make them not dark-skinned anymore and have dark-skinned races that are actually heroic? Good villains are not that easy to come by; green orcs and pale-skinned Underdark dwellers, on the other hand, are totally a thing. Gold dwarves are dark-skinned...

Indeed. 5e says you get to be an illusionist wizard, but you still end up firebolting your enemies 50% of the time.

I never thought of Rufus and Burne as anything other than a gay couple. If Gygax didn't want them to be, he communicated it pretty badly.

I totally support this. This, on the other hand, is just bad/wrong fun: woke edition. I'd rather remove all the other humanoid races from my setting and play human vs. demons/humans vs. zombies/humans vs. plants than having to remove any conflict that hurts modern sensibilities, until the...