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    Convincing 4th Edition players to consider 5th Edition

    Not to mention the old assumption that any new or replacement character starts at level 1, no matter what level the rest of the party is! It's all very well to say AD&D wasn't balanced because the wizard gained power at a different rate to other classes, but all such considerations should be...
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    D&D 5E (2014) The Door, Player Expectations, and why 5e can't unify the fanbase.

    As Lanefan already pointed out, having wizards bend real world rules doesn't mean fighters should do the same. Let's take a metaphoric comparison: In the real world, there are pilots, and people who are not pilots. Pilots can fly planes. Non-pilots cannot fly planes. Non-pilots, can if they...
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    Blurring the lines between spells and rituals

    This is similar to the idea I am working with. In my current version, there is complete separation between arcane and divine, therefore there are two types of rituals. Both are obtainable via feats. I hadn't thought about bards yet, good catch. Paladins would be similar, in your system, getting...
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    D&D 5E (2014) The Door, Player Expectations, and why 5e can't unify the fanbase.

    Yes, thankyou. That was exactly the kind of information I was seeking. Sent from my GT-I9100T using Tapatalk 2
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    D&D 5E (2014) The Door, Player Expectations, and why 5e can't unify the fanbase.

    I didn't mention adamantium. I said 'DC 17'. Agreed, but it was necessary for the point of the conversation here... Yes, that's what I thought too. I'm not happy about that being a valid answer given the situation the other characters are in. How might we fix that? 4E seems to suggest that...
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    Blurring the lines between spells and rituals

    Wow, despite working with the same idea, you and I are on extremely different tracks. While I think it would be awesome to enable use of the sleep spells as per Snow White or Sleeping Beauty, that was not my goal. I'm actually looking into this idea as a way of improving balance between the...
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    Blurring the lines between spells and rituals

    It's about having options. Why restrict phantom steed to being a ritual? It's useful for getting you out of combat, not just for when you've got time to cast a ritual. Sometimes you want to cast it quickly and other times you don't. Even with sleep, there are times where casting it quickly isn't...
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    D&D 5E (2014) The Door, Player Expectations, and why 5e can't unify the fanbase.

    My figures weren't supposed to be the point of this debate. Call it 2.5 times. It doesn't matter. The fact remains that the wizard has significantly less hp than the fighter, and will therefore require the presence of 'tanks', whether that be PC fighters or NPC fighters. We were discussing...
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    Blurring the lines between spells and rituals

    That's what I'm afraid of with my system. It's part of why I stuck with just casting the same spell but taking a lot longer to do so. Let's take some examples: Knock If the wizard memorizes knock, then yes he can bust through a lock in no time, thus putting the rogue to shame. However, if he...
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    Blurring the lines between spells and rituals

    That is another angle I've considered, but given DnD's history, I suspect it would be harder to 'sell'.
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    Blurring the lines between spells and rituals

    Like many, I was pleased with the idea of Rituals, but not pleased with the implementation that 4E chose. Separating spells from rituals in the manner that 4E chose requires a lot of hard decisions. "Should this ability be a spell or a ritual?" This comes from being a binary choice. What...
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    D&D 5E (2014) The Door, Player Expectations, and why 5e can't unify the fanbase.

    Because the wizard can't use it. Besides, hammer of disintegration was supposed to be an over-the-top example. Call it a longsword +5 if you find that easier. Why? That depends on how you want the story to work doesn't it? For me, fighters are non-magical men who do what they do very well. They...
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    Convincing 4th Edition players to consider 5th Edition

    Knowing where you come from can be as important as knowing where you're going. 'Forward' doesn't always mean better either. WotC needs to pick a destination and move towards it. They have to define 'what' they are trying to do before they can make a game that is better at achieving that goal...
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    D&D 5E (2014) The Door, Player Expectations, and why 5e can't unify the fanbase.

    This is a very interesting topic. It's making me evaluate things I'd never considered before. I find I want a bit of both worlds. I want mundane problems to be remain as they are in terms of DC, yet I want additional ways around them too. Example: The first level fighter needs to break down a...
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    Convincing 4th Edition players to consider 5th Edition

    Well thank you for the explanation. I can understand what you're saying, but from my point of view, doing a 'revised 4e', 'revised 3e' and 'classic' sounds like 3 new editions to me, likely as not to create more splits in the community. Instead of 5 editions, you'd now have 7. Of course, that...
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    Convincing 4th Edition players to consider 5th Edition

    Agreed. That doesn't mean I have to like it :P The 'flatter math' of 5E interests me a great deal. I want to avoid the 'take every possible upgrade to your attack rating, just to stay in line with where you started' thing that 4E does (see every 'the math is broken' thread for details). Like...
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    Convincing 4th Edition players to consider 5th Edition

    On the contrary. I have bought nearly as many 4E books as I have 3E books. I am a customer. But that doesn't mean I like 4E. In fact, let me look at the figure here... Over the entire course of 3E (.0 and .5) I bought 9 books. Make it 10 if you count Pathfinder (which I don't because we're...
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    Convincing 4th Edition players to consider 5th Edition

    DogBackwards already addressed most of my arguments, but here's a couple of additional points. I'm not sure about that. I count as part of WotC's current customer based, yet I don't like 4E. Customer base doesn't necessarily mean 'someone who has bought the latest product'. But I will leave this...
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    D&D 4E 4e DM Cheat Sheet

    Would you consider making the landscape word .doc available? Landscape is more useful to me, and I'm thinking of ripping the guts out of it and turning it in a pathfinder reference.
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    Free Form Martial Powers optional system

    I like it a lot. I'd probably limit it to 'martial' types though.
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