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I think they serve as a kind of straight man challenge. And potentially even as koan-like riddles for insightful debate.

Or if say, magic items aren't commodities.

Excellent news. That would rank as the most useful supplement I can imagine. EnWorld often fields discussions about getting new blood into the hobby. Bringing back the classics in a real and organized manner seems like it would be a huge boon to non-grognards.

Oh boy did they. It now does 1d12 per spell active on the target. Forgive if you see me sulking about it in other threads. It was a fav.

Or abjuration...oh that's right, the spell compendium came out. Alas for Reciprocal Gyre :(

Agreed 100%. For me, it's subtle, nuanced changes that make for an innovative setting, not lazy, broad brush strokes that simply play "hide the wizard".

Characterizing other styles of play as immature or flawed ain't gonna garner you a lot of love around here. Then again, there's a certain flavor of commentary that goes a bit too far in the other direction. You should feel free to find a group of gamers that play to your tastes. If you want...

Off the top of my head: Reciprocal Gyre went from being invaluble to an oddity. It now does a 1d12 per spell on the target. Familiar pocket is now 1st instead of 2nd level. Anticipate teleportation is now 3rd instead of 4th and has a duration of 24 hours. I think the greater version dropped a...

Isn't that essentially the premise behind that Fireborn game?

Sadly, my current group encounters almost nothing but speedbumps. If I throw an actual challenge their way, they tend to sulk and whine.

Most used: Explorer's Handbook Least used: Cry Havoc and it will likely remain so.

Per the Spell Compendium, Awaken Undead now has a duration of instantaneous.

Why, Nehwon of course. Silly question.

Glad to help Alzrius :)

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My pleasure. Truly :)

Discounting the curious circumstances needed for one to fall at the cliff, it all depends on whether "Fred" and the wizard in question are the same person. Assuming that they are, the most important detail is whether the two exchange names and pleasantries after the rescue.

What's the wizard's alignment?

:\ This thread reads like a group chat with Dr. Sbaitso or ZolaOnAol.

Familiars are out, staffs are in. :) See "Staffs of the Magi" Dragon 338.