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    D&D 5E (2014) How I think HoTDQ should of been handled.

    The factions are built into the module to provide very specific rewards and benefits. If you ignore them because of the FR lore, you lose all of that stuff for players. It's integrated into the module. OTOH, if you want to keep the factions and benefits but de-couple it from FR, you have a...
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    D&D 5E (2014) 5th edition Forgotten Realms: Why can't you just ignore the lore?

    LOL, you know what? My bad. I completely forgot that trying to talk to people rationally about the Forgotten Realms is a lot like trying to discuss politics while shouting over a jet engine that's two feet away. Very few people hear you, even if they're the ones that asked you a question, and...
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    D&D 5E (2014) How I think HoTDQ should of been handled.

    Including the beta material, it's been Realms and more Realms.
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    D&D 5E (2014) 5th edition Forgotten Realms: Why can't you just ignore the lore?

    It really is a problem with the setting IMO, because in my experience with many groups (all different Realms editions) and even DMing for Encounters and RPGA events, the quality of a player isn't associated with whether or not they're a Realms enthusiast. So it's not about finding "better"...
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    D&D 5E (2014) How I think HoTDQ should of been handled.

    Uhm, no thanks. Pass. AFAIK, all of the modules, adventures, etc. for 5E so far are set in the Realms. All of them. Kinda hard to ignore, really.
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    D&D 5E (2014) How I think HoTDQ should of been handled.

    I would, except that FR is now the flagship/core setting and "the lore" has been folded into all of the 5E manuals. It's infected everything, like a (spell)plague.
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    D&D 5E (2014) 5th edition Forgotten Realms: Why can't you just ignore the lore?

    OK, white knight. You're just as pompous and preachy as you've always been. Typical Realmsian, really. Let us know when that change actually happens, if ever.
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    D&D 5E (2014) How I think HoTDQ should of been handled.

    Which are always going to be more epic, more important, more heroic than anything the PCs will do. They're part of the metastory in the novels, which you and I and others can never be. They'll always be higher level, more powerful, more connected and knowledgeable - it's who they are. Unless...
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    D&D 5E (2014) 5th edition Forgotten Realms: Why can't you just ignore the lore?

    Stop, just stop. I don't need a white knight defender, and it's incredibly annoying seeing someone try to act like a moderator when they're not. I'm quite capable of defending myself when needed, or reporting people when they get out of hand. Thing is, I may not post a lot but I've been...
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    D&D 5E (2014) 5th edition Forgotten Realms: Why can't you just ignore the lore?

    What happens in the comics stays in the comics. ;)
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    D&D 5E (2014) 5th edition Forgotten Realms: Why can't you just ignore the lore?

    Ah, but you see - the moment you actually do that, a Realmslore master will pout and grumble and complain they're not having fun. Because you're not doing it right, or because truthfully they wanted to go sit in on one of Lady Alustriel's naked hot tub sessions in Silverymoon and now they...
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    D&D 5E (2014) 5th edition Forgotten Realms: Why can't you just ignore the lore?

    Oh, here we go. This is the other massive problem with using the Realms. Despite the OP suggesting we should ignore the lore, or Greenwood using an unreliable narrator, the second you disagree with one of these so-called Realmslore enthusiasts you're either "doing it wrong" or having...
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    D&D 5E (2014) 5th edition Forgotten Realms: Why can't you just ignore the lore?

    Yep, exactly. I remember at the time wondering how and why a couple of adventurers around level 8-10 were even allowed to ascend to godhood. Not even just demigods, the "first step" on the path, but all three straight to greater godhood. And no one anywhere in any temple or church really...
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    D&D 5E (2014) 5th edition Forgotten Realms: Why can't you just ignore the lore?

    The other thing that bothers me about the Realms is the highly campy quality of people and places everywhere. For example, if you do include Elminster even as a quest giver, you have to pretty much play him as a sanctimonious asshat that will always try to put PCs in their "place" by talking...
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    D&D 5E (2014) 5th edition Forgotten Realms: Why can't you just ignore the lore?

    Personally, I agree that there's a problem with too many epic heroes and lvl 20+ NPCs just hanging out in every single tiny village in the Forgotten Realms. Sure, it's a high magic setting. And sure, Elminster and the goddess-children power team are out solving the truly big problems. Or...
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    D&D 5E (2014) 5th edition Forgotten Realms: Why can't you just ignore the lore?

    I'm surprised that anyone except for a handful of die-hards still even care about or use the Realms. With the giant world-nukes and dying/reborn gods, with the extremely cheesy and poor quality novels, how can anyone take it seriously as a setting? The last time I actually used the Realms was...
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    D&D 5E (2014) How I think HoTDQ should of been handled.

    Actually, I've heard about this "moving away from god-centric stories, back to local, mortal stories" thing. It was in one of the Wotc Forgotten Realms panels at Gencon, back when they were talking about diminishing most of the 4E Realms changes or at least minimizing them. It was a promise...
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