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Thank you for allowing it but if it's against your rules i'll surive with them both just not working. It's more fair that way. I'll play it like this is the first time she tried to use then since stealing them.

Sorry I wasn't watching the OCC page. I guess my cure and inflict wands are either just sticks or unusable by Feather. Your call and I'll post her reaction to nothing happening.

354b wonders how speech can have a figure. Occ: I agree with continuing forward.

Occ: A Eternal wand can be activated by any arcane caster without a UMD check. Edit: now i see the house rule about bards. Feather is shocked when her attempt to use the wand results in nothing happening. "He lied to me!" she says with disbelief in her voice.

So any other thoughts? So far there is one vote for the wizard keeping control and one for the cleric getting control of the undead, with the possablity of it not being able to attack the wizard.

354b is listening but silent.

I always thought of the attack gained from cleave to be from the same motion as the first attack. So that neither enemy would have the time to realize what was happening.

I think it would work like increasing your int the increase doesn't work retroactively. Or like taking a level of a class that has a class skill that you have put ranks in as a cross class the skill points you've spent don't change.

I am wondering what happens when a wizard uses the spell control undead on a zombie and then a evil cleric tries to use his turning ability on that same creature.

Jack you are right, my figures were a little off. Would you require a specific feat for a character to be able to make these? Beyond the two crafting feats. This just seems like it could be a little over the top especially if you let arcane spell casters make them. A wizard could make one...

Feather will attempt to move to space P14 before she is ripped to pieces. If she is able she will also draw her wand of cure light wounds to use on herself. Attack of opportunity Z2 1d20=2 Roll Lookup Attack of opportunity Z3 1d20=10 Roll Lookup Attack of opportunity Z4 1d20=6 Roll Lookup...

Would it be allowable by RAW to have a book of scrolls? Just using the pages of a book (very similar to a spell book) as the paper that you scribe the spells onto and then flipping to the page of the spell you want to cast. As apposed to digging through a bag of loose sheets of paper.

I think this sounds cool. It might not be that balanced when you hire a spell caster he charges 5 gp per xp used casting a spell. A charge from a normal wand of cure light wounds uses 25gp worth of gear value, this instead uses xp valued at 10 gp. Also there is a severe case of diminishing...

Feather will user her eternal wand of Command Undead on the ogre zombie and command it to attack the Orc.

Feather will move to Q13 drawing and readying her eternal wand of command undead. She will use her Arcane blast against zombie 2. Attack 1d20+4=23 Roll Lookup Damage 2d6=11 Roll Lookup Occ:sorry for the slow posting.

354b is content to go whatever way the group decides. He will walk with his sling drawn and ready (9 shots remaining).

I always thought that there should be a synergy between craft, profession and the related knowledge skill. I imagine a high level blacksmith with maxed ranks in craft(blacksmith), profession(blacksmith) and knowledge(?blacksmith) should get more than a +2 to each.

Occ: crud i miss a day and its destroyed before i had a chance to control it. Feather starts to draw her eternal wand of command undead as she sees the wraith destroyed.

Occ: Jehen is getting on 354b's good side. :) After receiving Jehen's aide 354b will stand up and thank Jehen. 354b is hesitant to continue on with out rest.

Feather will enter space D15, having cast light on a small rock before having entered the room, and cast detect undead. Spells remaining for the day 5/5/4