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I'm genuinely not sure what point you are trying to make. As best I can tell, everyone you're arguing with has already agreed that their personal biases and feelings have an effect on their judgements. Plenty of people have already said that, if they see a number of outcomes that seem similarly...

You have presented only two options: Do something fun but possibly implausible. Spend hours of real time simulating nothing happening in a jail cell. However, these are far from the only two options available. You don't need to play out the time in the cell in real time, and days of game time...

I'm really not sure what any of this means. If you're talking about articulating social norms as clear, formal and detailed rules, that's not sonething I'm interested in attempting. If you mean reducing broadly defined powers or responsibilities down to clear, unambiguous specifics, much of this...

Yes, I opened with that because I think it's important to establish that you're not technically wrong about those things. I think the main reason people push back isn't because your perspective is objectively wrong, but because those things just aren't a meaningful concern for us. As an...

One of the principles is to ensure the players can chart their own path and not to railroad or force them down a particular route. Your example repeatedly asserts that the GM, having created the bandits, will inevitably ensure they become the focus of the game, no matter what the players...

@EzekielRaiden, if you want to see what I do, here's the best example I have: https://www.rpgpub.com/threads/return-to-the-old-school-how-to-kick-acks-or-die-trying.6939/

Edit: Sorry, ignore my initial response, I misread you.

Yes, I agree they are not the same thing. This goes some way to explaining why I said that I view them similarly, rather than saying something like, "they are the same thing". None of which addresses the point I was making, which was that when I expressed that I see a similarity, you felt a...

For the third time in this thread now I have gone to some effort to give you explanations you seem to be seeking, taking my time to try and understand and respond to your specific concerns. I did this even after I had decided not to bother engaging with you any further. And, every time, after...

I tried to be quite clear in my recent response to @EzekielRaiden, and I feel that @Bedrockgames has done the same in his comments, that it's foundational to what we, personally, find valuable and enjoy about these games. We're talking about what these games mean to us; no more, no less. If you...

The limits are essentially self-imposed, or imposed by social construct. I don't railroad my players. Why don't I? I've said I won't. But why did I say I won't in the first place? Because I wouldn't enjoy a game where I did. I mentioned earlier I'm currently running a villain of the week game...

I just stopped, pretty much. I was already running a very low prep, high improv style of game at the time (I had a large group of players, dominated by drama students, who were quite capable of running wild with anything dropped in front of them, with very little effort required from me), so I...

I am 100% sure that no one in this thread thinks or is claiming that Blades in the Dark and The Majestic Wilderlands are "exactly the same". That's why I stated only that I felt there was "common ground" or some "similarities" between the two sides, and that the commonality was with respect to...

For me, it was a moment when my players were being all awed by my awesomeness, and I pulled the curtain back and said, "This is how I did it." I'm not sure if they even cared. But as soon as I spoke, their adulation immediately meant nothing to me, because I could see how it was built on...

I said I wouldn't engage, but here I am again ... @EzekielRaiden You are asking what protections you have against a GM who intentionally or inadvertently railroads you, if you play a game where the GM has the power to intentionally or inadvertently railroads you. The answer is, you have none...

If they have buy-in from the players and everyone is having fun, there is no need for the "who don't know any better" suffix. If everyone is on board, there is nothing inherently wrong with illusionism. It's not my thing these days (and I stopped using it when I realised it made the game feel...

Sorry to dredge this back up, but I have been thinking about this post after a recent exchange. There are a number of trad sandboxers in this thread who have stated they see a lot of similarities between what they do and the principles outlined in Blades in the Dark. This has gained a...

Honestly, I am genuinely torn when I try and understand where you're coming from. Half the time it feels like you're just being genuinely curious at best and, at worst, too invested in the debate for the sake of a debate for my liking, but not acting in bad faith. The other half it feels like...

Who has been even a little coy about this? We've been talking for thousands of posts about our processes that involve keyed maps and timelines. @robertsconley alone has posted dozens of keyed maps. Edit: Although I note that elsewhere you seem to be implying that with map and key prep you also...

So, like I said earlier: