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  1. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    You may well have seen such things; I'm just leery of people who then apply those experiences to specific individuals they don't know in a general conversation or treat their experience as universally applicable. I've certainly seen people claim that I probably don't or might not really know...
  2. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    To be clear, I wasn't trying to assert that you're a member of any particular group, simply that anyone drawing on EnWorld (or any other similar online source, there's nothing unique about this site in that respect) conversations as a source of data is necessarily drawing a reasonable amount of...
  3. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    My advice is assume that anything you see in mainstream reporting of science is embellished, taken out of context and the conclusions being drawn by the author based in their own dreams and hopes (or a desire to feed on the hopes and dreams of the reader). Quanta Magazine, I think, is one of...
  4. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yeah, I think it's really impossible to know. I assume your feelings on the matter are based on extensive personal experiences so it's natural that you'll form an opinion that something you rarely see is probably an outlier. But then my extensive experience tells me the exact opposite thing. My...
  5. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    People can even enjoy completely contradictory styles. I'm currently running a game in a style that is in complete opposition to everything I'm arguing for in this thread. Last session, a player voiced a belief about what might be going on and I decided to make that the reality, even though in...
  6. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I will absolutely agree this style of play requires a group where everyone is sufficiently aligned in their expectations and understanding and there there are processes to deal with misunderstandings. For those people who haven't been in a position where there is that level of alignment within...
  7. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    How many digits of pi do you need? We can calculate millions, but only 15 or 16 get used for interplanetary navigation and I think for the most precise earthly engineering tasks 5 or 6 is more than sufficient. More precision is simply not necessary for most tasks. Similarly, GMs don't need to...
  8. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Never mind, you clarified that what I thought you were saying wasn't the point you were trying to make, so that part of my response was not relevant.
  9. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Well, it's clearly not objective enough for you. It is objective enough for us, though.
  10. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Oh, then I fall back to my bracketed closing statement: who cares? Arriving at a singular, unique outcome which was always the only possible result, was never the intent. This line of argument just a rehashing of the, "If you're not 100% objective, 100% realistic, 100% perfect, why do you even...
  11. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I presume when you say it's not yielding a unique outcome, you're referring to the fact that that outcomes aren't unique to this specific process, as opposed to the idea that the process can only ever arrive at a single, inevitable outcome. Speaking for myself, it doesn't matter if the process...
  12. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Because there are different degrees and types of fun, and most adults understand that instant gratification isn't always the best option. Eating all the cookie dough right now might be fun, but it will also result in you feeling sick, and you will miss out on baked cookies later. Feeling that...
  13. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    In all seriousness, if pemerton advised me he wasn't interested in providing further answers to some question I had, I would most likely have shrugged and moved on. I may have started composing some kind of snarky response but (along with about 90% of the things I've typed in reply boxes for...
  14. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    At some point, if you still don't understand these things after a few thousand posts, you have to decide it's time to just accept that you aren't going to understand them. Demanding that people explain them to you one more time isn't likely to achieve anything but another demand for them to...
  15. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    As a group, I'd say we're middling here. Intimate relationships tend not to get a lot of screen time, but drama in general certainly can drive play or make for an interesting pay off for events that have occurred. I think it's clear I'm big on this one. I'm currently running a supers game...
  16. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    B/X and BECMI had clerics that just got their power from vague and undefined alignment-based forces.
  17. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Huh? I haven't been making any comments about Narrativist play generally, in this conversation. I have talked about how I, personally, run games, comparing my experiences with Blades to other games, and I've talked about the conclusions I reached about which elements of play fall under the...
  18. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    People are welcome to use whatever term they want to describe my play. Personally, I have no real interest in trying to distil everything that I enjoy in TTRPGs down to a single word but, if I was going to try doing so using GNS I'd be inclined to go with sim. Take that as you will; at the end...
  19. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Looking at that specific section (Create an atmosphere of enquiry) I'm not seeing anything that isn't widely applicable. To me, it's simply saying when a question arises, let the results fall as they may. All of the questions listed are ones that I would seem entirely reasonable whether I'm...
  20. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Referring back to Blades, which is what I'm familiar with, I chose to run the game and set it in Doskvol because I was interested in that. I don't see how that's any different than choosing to run a game set in Dark Sun and have a village of escaped slaves. Blades clearly shows me that "Play to...
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