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Bard: Jack of All Trades, Expertise, More skills than most classes, spells Cleric: domain, spells Druid: wild shape, spells, various exploration related class features Monk: the ability to jump 2x as far as normal and run on water Paladin: divine sense, spells, auras Ranger: favored terrain...

I don't deny shoves usefulness for Shield Masters. Being able to shove as a bonus action and not having to trade an attack to shove, is a huge part of this though. For a regular fighter this isn't the case however. For a regular fighter, you only have proficiency in Athletics, no expertise and...

Yeah, I realized I didn't really answer the question because it is basically impossible to answer in any satisfactory way. Sure, in an ideal world a class that is 10 Combat, 7 Social, 7 exploration would be balanced against a class that is 8/8/8. The issue is, there is no good way to measure...

Of the battlemaster, no. In general, probably. The battlemaster suffers from his resource pool being too small and not refreshing often enough. This leads to gameplay where 80% of the time, you are merely making basic attacks. If superiority dice refreshed every battle, then you might see...

So at least now we can say with certainty that Corpsetaker is a troll. He keeps stating that those of us who want "mythic" fighters want magical powers in an attempt to mischaracterize our desires even though we have refuted that claim numerous times. Clearly he has no desire for reasonable...

I grouped those classes together because I found the variety of options and tactical decisions they provided to be far more enjoyable than the basic attack spam of the 5e fighter. Those classes were all radically different in both role and mechanics, but were all fun and interesting martial...

The warblade is nothing like the 4e fighter though. They are about as similar as the 5e fighter is to the 5e wizard. They had radically different mechanics. The 4e fighter was all about battlefield control and AEDU. The warblade was designed based around a list of constantly refreshing...

If that is what you got from this thread, I seriously doubt you have read any of it...

I posted this a while ago, but certain people seemed to ignore it. I had an idea for "non-weapon proficiencies" that work kind of like 2e NWPs, 3e skill tricks, 4e skill utility powers, and 4e ranger knacks? (i forget what they were called). Basically they would be abilities PCs could learn...

Outside of combat, the fighter can ONLY do what everyone else can also do (same access to feats, skills, backgrounds, etc). Every other class can do what the fighter can, but also has access to things that make them extraordinary outside of combat. Some classes have expertise, some have spells...

Which still isn't relevant when the discussion was problems with the fighter's non combat capability. We already know the fighter is capable in combat. It seems disingenuous to mention a combat oriented situation in a discussion about non combat capability. Besides, there are plenty of ways a...

And of course, let us not forget that at level 9 the Bard has +11 Athletics to the fighters +8, narrowing the advantage that the lucky reroll gives. Also, let us not forget that lucky is 3 times per day only. And as Hemlock would have us believe, the fighter would need to use the feat all 3...

I kind of wish feats had been split into combat feats and expert feats (like they were in one of the play test packets), and that characters got a specific number of each type of feat. So a level 20 fighter might have 6 combat feats (including + STR, Dex, or Con) and 4 expert feats (including...

So it's my fault for wanting to play a fighter?Or I should only play a fighter if the group has no valor bard, war cleric, barbarian, paladin, blade-warlock, Druid, or rogue with expertise in Athletics?Kind of limiting, don't you think? Especially when I stated that I typically enjoy martial...

You forgot I took great weapon master at 6. Missing out on that would reduce my damage by 30-40% which would been terrible for our group. well that is per failure. If you need to make multiple rolls (such as in most climbing or swimming attempts, eventually, your luck will run out). Sure if...

Everything you said with animal handling was primarily RP related and wouldn't have been bad for the party if they had no-one with that skill. Besides, we had a Druid, handling animals was not a problem without anyone having that skill. Everything you said with history also seems to be covered...

See, all the examples you described don't show those skills contributing to the success of a non combat encounter though. Sure, you are rewarding players who chose less useful skills, but your examples are proving my earlier point, that those skills are not necessary for the resolution of a...

Let's use math!!! Ok we are level 8, and I have 18 STR (can't have 20 and Lucky at 8 sadly) and I am trained in athletics. The Bard has 16 strength but has expertise in Athletics. The challenge we are faced with is a 50 foot wall with a DC of only 15. To get passed this wall, you need to...

Sure, there are 16 skills, but some skills aren't all that useful. Animal Handling, Performance, and Investigation are rarely used or help very little in exploration or social encounters. These skills seem most useful for RP purposes. These skills really should only be chosen if it fits your...

I don't want to be the best at everything. It would be nice to be the better than other party members at something though. Right now, that isn't ever really the case. The Druid can shapeshift into stronger creatures than me. The bard has expertise in athletics. The warlock has jump castable at...