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I actually gave examples of things I think would be fitting and interesting for a mid to high level fighter to do in post #322. Here is a short recap: *Getting expertise in athletics or treating a roll of 9 or less as a 10 for Athletics checks would be fitting and flavorful. *Doubling the...

Well, here let me clarify for you. Unique means having unique capabilities. Remarkable athlete is not unique. Anyone can already make untrained skill checks. Getting a small bonus to untrained STR/DEX/CON checks is therefor not unique. Indomitable (when used outside of combat) only serves to...

Because they don't actually do anything unique? Seriously, all using indomitable does is give you another chance to save. That isn't a unique capability, everyone already gets to make a save anyway. Besides, some classes get advantage on certain saves all the time, bonuses to their and their...

Imagine a high level commoner with training in athletics and a high strength score. It has exact same contribution to STR related challenges as the fighter, right? That is what I meant by the commoner having the same contribution as a fighter. That is the problem with the fighter, anyone with a...

How is it dishonest? What is a single non combat task a fighter can accomplish that a commoner could not. Sure, the fighter might have slightly higher check bonus, but even a commoner can eventually accomplish a DC 20 task. Hell, if the commoner has the same proficiency bonus and the same...

Actually, the -5/+10 is the biggest problem there. If you remove that suddenly: Crossbow expert is fine Polearm Master is fine Bless is fine Advantage on attacks all the time is fine Dual wielding is competitive with other combat styles A player with feats is competitive with a player without...

nobody is asking for all classes to be good at all pillars. All we are talking about is what can the fighter actually contribute outside of combat. The answer is, not surprisingly, nothing more than a commoner could already accomplish. I know some classes will have to be at the bottom of the...

Honestly, I think the spells you mentioned are a little too powerful for their level. Bless should be +1 as a level 1 spell, +2 as a level 3 spell, +3 as a level 5 spell, and +4 as a level 7 spell. Haste Should be a 5th level spell. Paralyze should not grant free critical hits. Etc. Note...

Alertness doesn't have non combat applications. Surprise and initiative are related to combat only. Dungeon delver is good against traps, but traps don't actually make up a very large portion of the exploration pillar. Besides, as a fighter, you probably don't have the intelligence and wisdom...

I never said indomitable is worse that advantage on Dex saves all the time, merely that it is worse outside of combat. A 1 to 3 times per day reroll, that is arguably better off used in combat is worse than advantage against the most common type of trap all the time in terms of exploration...

Why measure it in rounds? Outside of combat there is no need. Its not like you have to make a skill check every 6 seconds. Usually for non combat situations the game moves at the speed of plot. Also, even if those situations were measured in rounds, how would a single extra round matter outside...

The paladin aura affects the whole party though, making the rogues saves better, which is good if the rogue is the one activating/deactivating the traps. It also requires no resources to use. The barbarian has advantage to all Dex saves, without requiring resources. In my mind that is better...

Can anyone give me an actual example of why you would want a fighter in the party for an exploration related task as opposed to any other class? Sure, fighters get action surge, but in most exploration related tasks you aren't using rounds anyway. It almost never matters that you can take an...

So again, I will ask, what can the fighter bring to a non combat encounter that another PC could not bring near equally well if not better? Let's say you are making a party and one player is undecided but wants to contribute meaningfully outside of combat. He could choose a war cleric who...

You do realize remarkable athlete only applies to checks you AREN'T proficient with. Thus it is a minor boost to ability checks you weren't very good at to begin with. Guidance on the other hand not only applies to checks you are proficient in, but can be used to boost other party members as...

I never said the fighter didn't have anything to do outside of combat. I have said that their contribution to exploration is replicated by basically every other class to such an extent that their is no need to bring a fighter along. They don't meaningfully contribute outside of combat. I also...

is it though? I mean without GWM Feat and SS Feat the Great Weapon Style, Two Weapon Style, and Archery Style are fairly well balanced. Without GWM and SS feats, Crossbow Expert and Polearm master are good feats, but not insanely good feats. Then take the comparison of a GWM Feat fighter to a...

I think the root of the problem is that fighter's cant do anything outside of combat that other PCs couldn't already do. A war cleric with 14 Strength and guidance is just as capable at overcoming Strength related tasks as a 20 Strength fighter without using a single spell slot. A valor bard...

I would argue that those feats are not fine though. If you compare an archer with SS to one without, the difference in DPR is quite dramatic. The same is true for a warrior using GWM and one who is not. I would rather not have such feats impact combat to quite the degree that those two do...

Doesn't this just prove my point? So now the only option is to attempt with only a 25-50% chance of success, where failure results in significant injury or death? Why bother trying at that point? All you have done is shown that if the enemies create an anti-magic field (impossible given the...