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Mod Note: Please don't pretend that there's only one group who wants the company to conform to their own way of thinking. Or that one group is more right, or more wrong, for doing so.

Yeah, well the X-card idea was first published in 2013, iirc. The breakthrough there may have been less the X-card itself, and more than we really ought to think about this stuff, and maybe have tools on hand for it.

I see the argument, but the telephone and SMS messages are also "communication tools" - this language lacks specificity. The tools do not generate safety, but they can enable communication that can help make you safer. So, I'm good with the name we currently use.

No safety tool actually prevents people from acting in bad faith. In the experiences I mentioned above, and in discussions I've had - the X-card really isn't to hold the line on basic civility. The general expectations of the table should still be laid out before play, and folks should be...

Mod Note: Oh, you thought this was something for you to play with? Wrong. YOU are hereby banned from these forums for a week, for pretending to be a moderator. Edit: Yeah, I know, "It was a joke." As if that has ever actually worked as an excuse for doing something you should have know...

Yep. In the case I mentioned, the player wound up dropping into a one-shot at a house con last minute, and there wasn't time for the discussion, or apparent need - the session wasn't titled, "Against the Spider-Volcano Horde" or anything obvious.

This indicates that you have not a fig of an idea of what safety tools are for. You are arguing against a strawman of your own making. And at this point, that makes your position... sad.

So, do you want to get really philosophical about this? If the imaginary word does not differ AT ALL from the real one, then there is no morality in that world at all - any more than there is morality in a mirror. "Morality" does not exist without choice. That imaginary world has no choice...

Ah. 1) Product and marketing are not the same thing. 2) I expect you are in error in classifying WotC adventures as being more casual.

Most recent would be Daggerheart a couple weeks back, and Journeys Through the Radiant Citadel arrived a few days ago.

Thinking about it, I really don't think so. I don't think WotC's marketing drives anyone to play. There isn't enough of it, especially in the casual, and semi-casual spaces, to be driving play. If you aren't a pretty dedicated player, you aren't frequenting places WotC advertises to see it.

Well, the GM didn't just say, "..and there's a spider." There was vivid description, focus on the size of the body, the hairy, jointed legs, the many, many shiny-but-dead eyes, the glistening fangs, drooling venom... I can't do it justice here, but in context, it got that it was a valid...

As you yourself then noted, that wouldn't be the scenario. With 5e in Creative Commons, you can have professional support even if WotC isn't making the material. I don't think casual players are driven by WotC publication or marketing. I think they are driven by their somewhat-less-casual...

I have it on the table in any game I'm running for folks I don't know. For my "regular group", we don't have a physical card on the table, but it is understood that anyone can call a halt at any time. One group has a variant, specifically for volume control. A couple of the players have...

Yep. And I am also the one realizing that we are going to far, and ought to pull back.

And he has computing power beyond our imaginings at his disposal. That means tools to automate all that work.

Why? He likely knows the stardates of all the major events he might want to reference, and can cull down to the times just around those. "Computer, show me camera 3 stardate xxyyzz.aa to xxyyzz.bb".

He's been hanging around with two of the most chatty people on the ship. Even if they didn't tell him directly, there can easily be a moment when the public stories and the records he does have access to imply a gap.

That is terribly far off the topic of this thread, which is supposed to be about CR and the game it is using.

It isn't bonkers to think that it would carry on for a while, at least. I don't expect it is a runaway train, but it has some momentum. Plus, it is a hypothetical, as we know that WotC is doing new products.