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The conversation has probably gone well past this, but this is why a typical good declaration includes both the goal and approach. Indeed, as a broad generalization, if you don't know the approach, you cannot tell what roll the player has to make! "I want to get the orc to tell me where the...

Sorry, I am breaking things into smaller bits for posting from a phone. This contains the issue is am actually talking about, though. You are still putting to the forefront the idea of "not skilled play focused" before forefronting the idea that sim and puzzles aren't the only skills around...

Now, if we recognize that social conflicts present play challenges, and plots present challenge, then we break out of the trap of thinking that sim and combat are the only places we find skilled play.

But when the challenge of the game isn't puzzles, traps, and survival sim problems, it is inappropriate to say that the game doesn't have challenges or involve skilled play. If the challenge of the game is not your (generic, not payn, personally) preferred challenge, that doesn't mean there is...

I think a major issue we face when discussing "skilled play" is simple: skill at what, exactly? It won't be the same from game to game, or playstyle to playstyle. The play skills that will get me through the Tomb of Horrors are not the play skills that will get me through a boffer-style...

I don't have a lot of interest in "see how everyone else gets beaten by one supercharacter" style comics, whether it is Deadpool, the Punisher, Wolverine, or Squirrel Girl. I don't think zombies will seem much different, so this won't be high on my list of priorities.

Yes, well, you aren't exactly helping it get off that topic with this post, now are you? The moderators don't generally pick and choose what topics people can talk about. Are you of the expectation that, lacking a specific name, we would not see this as an insult to some of your fellow...

It isn'tlike we can mind-read to know why folks subscribe or click to the next page, dude. In any event, the ads are intended to help defer costs, but as I understand it the message boards are not intended to be a moneymaker, and so don't need money-making policies.

How about you not try to control what others may post, please and thanks.

Mod note: The entire thread is a hypothetical. Please allow folks to engage without having to justify themselves for not agreeing with what you would prefer.

Yeah WotC doesn't seem to have that habit. I don't know that anyone else really "steals their business" to make that a useful strategy.

They bought some game developer shops, I presume to work on Sigil, but we see how that turned out.

You cannot buy what isn't for sale, for one thing. For another, they are probably aware that CR not being a WotC property is probably a part of its appeal. As soon as it was bought, it would be "sellout WotC pablum", and not worth anything.

Um, no.

Yeah, but Lanefan, and this is pretty important - you aren't in grade school anymore. We expect folks to have outgrown schoolyard solutions by the time they get here.

So, here's a thing many people don't seem to get: A bit of red text isn't a huge deal. Yes, a moderator told you (generic, not you, RoughCoronet) to knock off whatever it was you were doing. But if you do knock it off... that's it. It's done. If you aren't making a habit of it, and aren't...

What you seemed to miss was the big "ORDER NOW" button. The game is available for sale. I know, because I bought it. https://www.everwaygame.com/shop

Yeah. My wife maintains Amazon prime to get things she needs for her business quickly, so Prime is a side effect. My PBS subscription i also view as a public good. I just cut cable a little while back, and even with boosting my internet speeds on the new package, that saved over a hundred bucks...

No, that's fine. Trying to find a single point of instigation is often difficult - people kind of slide into it over the course of several interchanges.

Mod note: So... after some consideration... For one thing, what you are asking is not clearly stated on the OP. For another, we don't support "arguments against only" threads. Now, folks who are gung ho for AI should read the room, and recognize that posting feel-good stories in the middle...