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So just change the scenario to not have minions? I'm not following. The scenario was simple. Ogre leader is threatening the town and blackmailing them. The DM wants the leader to have a bunch of followers without blowing out the XP budget. The characters through clever play, scouting and a bit...

The point is that it could have just been a regular cat. Admittedly it would be easy to kill and has to get lucky to hit. But if it did the minion would die. Better example is commoners that come to the aid of the characters taking out minions left and right by throwing rocks. I don't think it...

Except action economy limits what you can do and if you accidentally blew a daily on a minion it really sucked. Meanwhile even the wimpiest AOE wiped them out. To me the design didn't really fit D&D while simultaneously doing poor job of achieving their goal. Given all that I rarely used...

The idea according to WOTC at the time was to have action movie enemies that show up in large numbers that the hero easily dispatches. If tracking HP is too much work, perhaps D&D isn't the best game. It just didn't work for me in the long run. Like a lot of 4e it was an interesting idea but I...

Or people just didn't like the concept and it didn't fit what they wanted out of the game. But what would I know, I only played the edition for a few years.

I understand the concept. That doesn't mean I like it or that I think it makes sense. They were trying to mimic cinematic action where the protagonist takes out low level enemies without taking a scratch. But then they tried to combine that with the monsters still being a threat. This is a...

I didn't care for minions, even if I did understand what they were going for. But it just made no sense in the fiction. Take Grr, the dragonborn. Grr has a breath weapon, something barely useful unless facing the weakest of foes. At low levels Grr faces ogre and they're tough, no way he's...

Bah, ya big softy! Start them out as apprentice adventurers, level 0. No classes, all stats at 10 or below, 1 HP. Make 'em earn 1st level.

The arguments are based on subjective preferences, opinions and point of view. I don't see adjusting a combat before the encounter starts as being at all the same as adding a cook (or any other complication) due to a failure of a check as being at all the same. One is adjusting the number of...

Since I don't care for the minion concept I think it's unnecessary in 5e. Meanwhile if I want those low level monsters to feel more individually dangerous, they need a bit of a boost. It's not going to work for an ogre, but it would still mean modified CR 1 monsters would only take a single hit...

If I were to mimic something like a minion I would use mobs as I stated above. Another option would be to increase attack and damage of a low level creature but keep everything else the same. It may take more than one hit to kill them for a fighter, but it keeps most of their core stats intact...

I think 4e took a very different approach and style. To me 4e was D&D in about the same way the 60s Batman TV show was the same as Chritopher Nolan's Batman movies.

I would agree that for some people D&D doesn't do some specific things as well for some things. Which I'm fine with. People have different preferences. I don't want all the overhead, detail and results an accurate medieval fighting sim would presumably have. So for me D&D's simplified heroic...

I really hope that if I ever need heart surgery that my doctor has advanced their skill level from someone who knew advanced first aid. D&D is not a reality simulator, it simulates heroic fictional characters. In fiction you do have a vast difference between Conan and the low level soldiers he...

Given that you're cherry picking a single line and then using it as some sort of trump card to validate a personal preference, I don't care. The text doesn't elevate what you want out of a game over what other people want.

I have no issues with someone saying that they prefer BitD for Ocean's 11 style heists. That's stating a preference. But what you're saying is "That game you and millions of people enjoy? It's a piss poor game."

If I want a horde of lower level monsters I jut use mobs. I think its a better solution. At least it is for me.

Doing the "well" is a matter of preference and opinion. We can be objective about certain things like how detailed or abstract rules are, what percentage of the rules are dedicated to what aspect of play the game focuses on. Every game will have tradeoffs but it seems to me that the people who...

It's worked well enough for tens of millions of people over the past half century. There are plenty of options for people that want something else.

If I want to simulate movie logic for a heist like Oceans 11, I think BitD likely works better. That game is not trying to be a sim in the same sense that D&D is and if I want a realistic medieval combat sim, I'm not going to use D&D. D&D traditionally hit somewhere in the muddy middle and to...