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No one at WOTC is going to read this thread and pay any attention to what we're saying. Meanwhile the game can't be everything for everyone and D&D is not chasing after niche desires. If WOTC decides that the majority of customers new and old want something you don't then you'll either have to...

If they don't accept it then they need to either accept the limitations of the game or find a different game because they want something I don't. If you want a mountain climbing simulation, D&D isn't for you. Personally I don't know what it would even look like because as soon as you figure...

Most likely explanation is that they realize no one is going to subscribe simply for Maps even if it is popular. Meanwhile they wanted to add a few features, ensure stability and server cost, or even just came to accept that it's not going to increase subscriptions. On the other hand if it's...

The last one certainly. Which, as much as I have issues with LLMs, seems like an actually appropriate use. It will be interesting to see how it works, I assume it will be built on current rules which may not work for some.

So I guess we don't have to wait for the YouTube videos to see how this is somehow a bad thing. ::sigh::

Nope. Please stop telling me what I really think when I've told you why. Right, where they then "guessed" that the chest contained gold? You don't get why it matters. All I ask is that you accept that it does.

Your point? I've established fiction, most of it known by the players or on my wiki. Most narrative games I've looked into let players introduce history and lore that they could reasonably know, that everyone can build off of. I would be okay with that, even if it's not my style. But making a...

With big red letters, flames in the background and either a facepalm or screaming. Headline something along the lines of "YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT THEY DID THIS TIME!!!"

I'm pretty much in the same boat. I don't care for several aspects of narrative games, they just aren't what I want. I want games where the character I'm playing can only change the world based on what I say and do. I don't want the GM nudging the game in a specific direction in order to follow...

People have expressed their preferences. If you take that as a demand that you change it's on you.

When has anyone made demands about what other people should do? We're all just expressing preferences about what we want in a game. You do get pushback when you say "This apple is just like that orange", that's not the same thing.

Unlike previous editions, particularly 3e, I find that the game holds together fairly well at all levels, even up to 20th. The casters have some cool toys but half the time I just tweak the story so that they can use those cool toys and feel like it was worth it. There are always going to be...

I don't think it's valid to conclude that the vast majority of groups don't go above 7th level. As was pointed out you can play twice as many campaigns going to 7th as you can going to 14th. You can play at least 3 times as many campaigns going to 7th as you can going to 20th. That skews the...

I didn't care for @clearstream's example either. It doesn't make it better that you could do the same thing in D&D. It doesn't matter that it's the GM adding to the fiction. It's the action of adding to the narrative things that are not justified by the fiction done solely in order to direct...

You can make something that sounds similar in D&D, that does not make them the same. First, in pemerton's example if the check had been a failure not only would the runes not have been interpreted, something would have happened that made the character's predicament worse. I guess you could...

That's not the issue. I think @Enrahim just explained it better. It feels like the player was allowed to cheat, the runes being directions to the exit are something they could not have possibly known ahead of time and also make no sense in the fiction. See my response to it just above.

The fact that this was promoted as a good example of how the game works is, I think the main issue. In most narrative games that I've read up on, the player is filling in details but it's always things their character could logically have known and makes sense for the situation. For example...

I don't think anyone is arguing that there are not other games that lean more into simulation. Meanwhile I'm primarily concerned about simulationism, the idea that the characters only interact with the world around them through their character, that the GM isn't regularly adjusting the fiction...

Even as GM I don't change the fiction on the fly to help the characters. Once the session starts the fiction is fixed. I don't care if your games aren't like that, it would just be nice if you'd try to understand why it matters to some of us.

Even real world simulations like galaxy formation rely on numbers they just plug in for things like dark matter and dark energy. Do either one of those things actually exist, much less do we know how they work? We have no clue but we need to plug those numbers in to make the simulations at...