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Lord, yes. Which is why I've avoided that role entirely.

This is certainly true for me. I am also interested in other 3rd party products, though. I don't expect WOTC to provide the best ideas ... for me, the more the merrier.

I'm starting to feel like the Grim Reaper here ... I vote, they die. Might have to switch soon to support CadFan -- he's got a darned good point about the SwordMage. It's a disappointing class.

After Some Thought I don't know if I'm a typical poster on ENWorld. I'm old, I'm a scientist and an engineer, I'm a retired military man ... and I haven't yet been able to "get into" 4E (I've tried and I keep trying). I actually let my Community Supporter account lapse over the summer, while...

Let's just get the Shaman out of the way, so we can get down to meatier "discussions." So far, it seems to me things are going in a predictable and entirely justified direction.:)

Hmm. Like Scott Evil, they're "Evil Lite." "Not evil enough." Oh well.:confused:

Not sure how or why, but some additional copies just showed up at my preferred LGS's in Northern Virginia. Perhaps more will become available near you.

I had a sadly similar experience. About 7 months with 3 groups. Did not go well ... for me. 4E is clearly a great game -- my mind can tell that. It's something else about me that's the problem.:rant: I haven't totally given up, but I can't make myself "click" yet with the new rules. Since...

Hmm. Perhaps we should have this engraved on the ENWorld Homepage. Not forever, mind, but for at least a few more years ...

Hmm. This is a fine idea ... thanks!

I'm sorry, but I can only take so much. I will not return to this Thread until the magnitude of the real part exceeds, at least slightly, the magnitude of the complex part.

Please ... relax ... take a deep breath ... stop being so emotional. It's a game. Not everyone sees it the same way, of course. How could we, being so different ourselves? Other people can have different opinions without being bad ... without being out to get your favorite game. This Thread...

After a ridiculous amount of poking about, I think I'm finally about to get my paper copy from Barnes and Noble (of all places). Northern Virginia was pretty much sold out.

I tried, but it doesn't seem to be working.:rant: What, precisely, constitutes "observation" of a virtual item like this Thread?

This is good news, indeed. May this marriage be all you hope it will be.:)

Thanks. Hadn't seen that. Guess I really am a Grognard, despite my sad lack of Napoleonic experience. I've still got some of those old wargames down in the basement.:)

This. No upset, no anger ... it just didn't work for me.

This might be a minority opinion, but I think it's the Golem. Who else has a large, purple Golem on their staff? No one ... that's who. There. The literal triumph of logic.

Hmm. I'm having the same problem. I have wit ... just not quick wit ... and I find I simply can't keep up. As a result, my future posts will likely be quite boring.

I refuse to go all upside-down just because everyone else is doing it. Eventually, when you've all returned to the common reality ... then I might try it.:)