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Definitely.

So, in your campaign world, is the penalty for chicken-rustling death?

Numbers 5 & 8 pretty much describe how I feel. Interesting thread, by the way.

Are you sure you don't want a nice can of New Coke with your order instead? ;)

Brilliant. They need to publish your explanation in the 4e PHB for sure.

Thanks! Your little declaration here put into words perfectly the reason why I feel irritation whenever someone trops out v3.5 to defend some aspect of v4.0. Do you mind if I sig you? :D

From Terminator 2: Judgement Day: John Connor (watching The Terminator patching up his mother's wounds): "You know what you're doing?" The Terminator: "I have detailed files on human anatomy." Sarah Connor: "Makes you a more efficient killer, right?" The Terminator: "Correct."

Willowborn. Or maybe the new 4e dryad.

Warwillows.

Mmmmmm.... :o

What? Is there a pdf file of the memorial poster somewhere? EDIT: Nevermind. I found it.

Or maybe Mr. Pramas just pointed out a similarity that no one else noticed before and gave everyone a little more food for thought. :) It's very easy to take a new criticism and lump it in with all the old ones, but I think you have to examine it carefully before rejecting it out-of-hand.

Awww. That banner is really touching! Thank you, Mr. Morris!

Are you talking about the famous "I'm Spartacus!" scene from Spartacus? If so, it's Kirk Douglas, and not Charlton Heston.

Yes, you're right. It's appropriate to bring up D&D 3e in that case. That's not always the case, though.

And apparently more than a few parties were able to overcome the dragon, which attests to their toughtness as well.

I'm quite familiar with hyberbole. But he didn't say something like "even starting fighters can be killed by a strong fart" or somesuch that would have indicated that he was talking about the frailty of 1st level characters. He mentioned specifically skill use, like climbing a ladder, so I...

Good post, roguerouge.

So? It still would have given us some clues about higher level play.

Funny. I don't recall every noticing a "bumbling-moron phase" in the games of D&D 3e I have run and played in at 1st level. Does your DM make you roll for everything, even simple tasks that anyone should be able to do, like climbing a ladder? Do you not use the Take 10 and Take 20 rules...