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I dont see what any of that has to do with anything I've posted. I havent become heated or argued anything. And as I have said, the subject of orientation, of gay characters in stories, and the experiences of gay gamers have been discussed here with no problems. You dont seem to have...

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And this is where you and I may disagree...or may just be thinking differently. I would say that the judging of its artitstic and creative *quality* (which is generally going to be the same as enjoyment) are subjective. But its *merit* or more specifically *value* is automatic and...

Like I said, there was a bit of misunderstanding. However, all of Umbran's points still stand. But shoes can be judged objectively by physical standards that everyone can agree on. Shoes that fall apart in a day are badly made, because they dont serve their purpose. However, the primary...

Discussion of politics is forbidden. I am in no way discussing politics. I'm discussing something I felt about a particular aspect of a work of fantasy fiction. If the moderators dont like it, they are of course free to remove it, warn me, ban me etc. But it is already understood that...

Oh and also my other disapointment...and I'm sure I will get some negative replies for this but oh well...is this. The Harry Potter series, mainly Harry's life itself could easily be cast as a metaphor for growing up gay (or different in any way, but come on he lived "in the closet" for 11...

Well bear in mind that book 7 is probably going to be quite a long book regardless, just judging from the ones going before it. And there are only 4 horcruxes remaining, and he does have some information to go on. Basically Rowling is just going to have to reign in the sub-mysteries and focus...

For the record, this is not entirely accurate wether through mistake or purpose. I asked who *anyone* is to try and create objective criteria for a subjective area, and how such a thing could even exist as a final authority. This is not a very good comparison. Medical practices are pretty...

Several things. First off, I'm not sure I totally accept that there are objective "rules" of "good" and "bad" in writting or any other creative area. However I understand what you mean and I agree to a point, however what you describe does not neccesarily make a writer a bad writer, or a book...

I think thats a little to out there for how Heroes seems to be doing things. I mean a powerful Telekinetic can essentially do nearly anything with with physical objects and forces, matter and energy, but to me Heroes seems to be sticking to a more basic aproach...like mostly limiting Telekinesis...

I know I said I wasnt going to post anymore, but Berandor has started to begin to actually aproach what I am trying to get at. Ok...thats all well and good. But my questions then are: Who decides what the "correct" use of those things is? What makes them correct? And does deviating from that...

Ahhh, therefore, it must go on the "read some day" list.

Let me ask you this; are there in the book, as in the movie, allusions to the idea that Gormengast may be a sort of "closed world" where if you go in one direction long enough you end up back where you started?

Umbran, you basically just said most if not quite all of what I had been considering saying, until I decided to withdraw from the discussion due to how upset certain aspects were making me. I believe I am going to bow out of this thread at this time anyway however for various reasons. Mark...

Hitting yourself on the head with a hammer is an objective thing. Its going to hurt you...thats a fact. Likewise, a dull knife isnt going to cut anything, and a square wheel wont roll. These things are objective, not subjective. Art tends to be subjective, as does entertainment and enjoyment...

Really, at the moment, my belief that all artistic works possess intrinsic value is secondary to what I mentioned above, and which is true wether they have intrinisic value or not: that nobody can state that an artistic work is objectively "bad"; they can only state that it is bad in their...

Ok, first, this still supports one of my other points, that I maybe havent gotten across quite as well, which is this: A person cannot make an objective, absolute statement about a creative work's merit/quality. They can only express their opinion. Thats why I have a problem with people saying...

I'm not sure I understand this. I agree entirely that age shouldnt have anything to do with it...it is as you say a level playing field. But I'm not sure then why you seem to think who published the book has much to do with anything. Especially since his parents published the initial small...

When you say "results" what do you mean? Getting something out on the market (published, aired, hung in a gallery etc) and/or sales? Whats the difference or difference of importance between results and the apreciation of those results? But the merit isnt subjective. At least not in terms of...

I dont remember a lot of the specific statements, more the gist. He came across as extremely cynical and rather condescending. I remember him making a number of quite discouraging statements aimed at aspiring fantasy writers. A lot of bashing Tolkien for not having enough sex/romance content in...