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Has anyone here used Green Ronin's 'True 20' system to run a fantasy campaign -- not including the 'Blue Rose' setting/campaign? More specifically, I am curious about the usefulness of True 20 for a 'Swords and Sorcery' (interpreted broadly) style campaign, though I'd be curious to know about...

Ryan does specifically say 'table top D&D' in the quote -- I accidentally overlooked that. Sorry!

I'd be curious to know whether the data used to make this claim differentiates between different editions of the game. There is a very large 'OOP Underground' of people who play earlier editions of D&D, but who don't buy new products or take part in websites like this one. Such people...

I find it depressing that some people feel the need to tout the 'superiority' (in their eyes) of 3e over earlier versions, even though the original poster made it clear that that is not the subject of this thread or poll. Anyhow, I love the RC, and would play it anytime (though I am not at the...

And of course there is the new 'Wilderlands of High Fantasy' box campaign set. I'd take that (with CSIO) over either WLD or Shackled City. (Note that the Mayfair version of the CSIO has nothing to do with the original JG version, or the new JG/Necro version. It is a horrible aberration, best...

Often the enthusiasm for a new game dies down a bit after a few weeks. I had a similar reaction to WFRP 2e as you, but after having it for a few months, I am no longer quite so obsessed about running it. I still like it, a lot, but the game doesn't 'eclipse' the other ones I like right now...

The topic has been covered. There are two views: (a.) 3e games are not always like the original poster's description, and this has nothing to do with the system; and (b.) while 3e games are not always like the original poster's description, the rules tend to promote such a style of play. I'm...

It is not a matter of what the word means to me. It is a matter of what the word means in the English language. What the word 'many' means obviously depends on the context in which it is used -- however, it is not synonymous with the word 'most'. You seem to be confusing the words 'many' and...

In my last group, some of my players would talk about DMing at some point, but none of them ever seemed to willing to do the actual work to put together a campaign (the one exception moved right before he had a chance to start his campaign). I've found that lots of people like to talk about...

I didn't know about that proverb, and had always assumed that people were misquoting Aristotle. Thanks for that nugget of info.

Right -- this was the point that the poster to whom you initially replied was making. And it was (and is) my point. Thanks for catching up. Earlier versions of D&D had an easy way to get into the game -- the Basic (and Expert) sets. Those were simple, and complete games -- and they sold in...

That's a rather novel definition of 'many'. :\

Your reply to the earlier poster was 'unfair' because it failed to appreciate adequately the point that was being made, viz. that the complexity of the combat system (and not the use of minis per se) is an entry-barrier for many people. I made the point that many people (not everyone, and...

I liked this setting when it was published the first two times, even though I never had a chance to actually play it. I'll probably buy this just to read it. The setting is pretty cool. :)

Actually, the saying is 'the proof is in the putting'. It's a saying made famous by Aristotle, and refers to the 'putting forward of evidence/argument', not a desert. ;) 3e made me look at D&D again for the first time in a long time as well. One thing that I found interesting was that so...

Well, the new Boxed Set is a lot more limited than the old Basic Set in terms of providing a real 'game'. (And of course the old Basic and Expert sets provided a 'light' alternative to people instead of, or in addition to, AD&D.) I'd be interested to see if WotC's Basic Set and/or 'Dummies...

I've taught lots of people to play too. The core ideas are not that complex. Things get bogged down with all the modifiers that arise during play, the need for a battlemat, running NPCs (all with different feats, skills, etc.), and so forth. ALso, eliminating the D&D magic system gets rid of...

This isn't "proof" of anything. All it shows is that 3e D&D, for a variety of reasons, occupies a dominant position in the RPG industry (as D&D has always done), and that some companies like Mongoose and Green Ronin want to take advantage of that fact. C&C is something of an exception, since...

I'm sorry, but this is painfully unclear. It is both illogical, and a fine example of poor rhetoric. What precisely is your point? D&D has always been the predominant game in the RPG industry. That has never changed, and is certainly true now. I fail to see how that fact is incompatible...

You're being unfair here. D&D is the main 'entry game' for people who play RPGs. The fact that the current version of D&D discourages new players means that they will never even hear about, let alone try, other RPGs. To point out that D&D is the largest RPG around is not incompatible with the...