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    Paladin Actions - Appropriate?

    But see, that's just the point. According to WotC materials they're not irredeemable! They are corrupt. They are almost always by default evil. But not irredeemable. If in your campaign they are irredeemable, then there is little wrong with smiting a demon/devil on sight because what else...
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    Paladin Actions - Appropriate?

    Well, FWIW, I never said that the paladin would be committing an evil act. I did say he would be a blood-spiller in the best case scenario and on the path to darkness in the worst case scenario. Blood-spiller can be interpreted negatively, but then again, most characters made are...
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    Paladin Actions - Appropriate?

    I don't know what power you think you have to insult my campaigns, and I take offense at your pressuposition. I have been nothing but respectful of your ability to interpret the rules in your campaigns. At the very least, I expect the same in return, please. A few things. First of all, it's...
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    Paladin Actions - Appropriate?

    Actually, it isn't. To pull in other non-core sources, since the core sources are quiet and we need sources like MotP and BoED, I look to the Sanctified Template in the BoED. Power-arguments aside, of course, this template specifically calls out outsiders. Sanctified outsiders gain the good...
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    Into the Moral Darkness: (Now a Completed Story!)

    Chapter Twelve: FERRETING OUT THE WIZARD’S HOUND Brandt met up with the party the next morning. The party hadn’t learned much else in the library the prior evening, and when they explained what they had found Brandt was in agreement that they may well have been battling Ankh-Bahl. However, it...
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    Paladin Actions - Appropriate?

    I'm glad you added that it is true in your campaign, because I can't argue about your campaign. I agree, though, this is our point of contention. Cool. Well, if you ever find yourself in north central PA, look me up! Yeah, I can see that. But, I also know that they created the BoED with...
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    Paladin Actions - Appropriate?

    And this is a legitimate comment so long as we are talking about your campaign. And I certainly won't argue about it in your homebrew world. But it is not a fair comment to make about D&D in general. In my campaign, for example, outsiders are not beyond conversion. It is a tough road with...
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    Paladin Actions - Appropriate?

    But this represents the very thing that I don't like about this arguement (and most that support the paladin free-will concept)! Do you hear how many assumptions are in here that are necessary to justify killing the imp? 1. Assumed the imp was acting only out of its own interests 2. Imp was...
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    Paladin Actions - Appropriate?

    The problem I have with this kind of argumentation (and most of Hawken's, too) is that it doesn't represent "good." The arguement is that "the paladin is good because in actively killing demons and devils he is fulfilling the goodness of his class." As if actively killing demons and devils...
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    What options are you really happy you allowed into your game?

    1. Weapon Groups. This has changed combat in that I see a lot more variety in weapons used now. 2. Modified "Buy the Numbers" system. Someone above said that Gestalt always allows you to build the character you want. This system does that to an even higher level. We didn't like some of the...
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    Paladin Actions - Appropriate?

    Thirded. Good post. Personally, I don't buy into the whole "paladins get carte blanche" when dealing with an outsider. Paladins of certain deities, perhaps. But paladins of all deities? No way. I don't buy into generalizations that broad! To me, being a paladin is so much more than just...
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    Paladin Actions - Appropriate?

    I can find myself agreeing and disagreeing with these comments, totally depending upon the campaign. Totally depends on the deity being served. If the deity respected life above killing, a case could be made that the fiend should have been captured and given the chance to repent and become...
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    Into the Moral Darkness: (Now a Completed Story!)

    The party searched through the tomes of religious history for hours looking for any hint of mention of a succubus. They had begun looking in the temple’s section of research specifically devoted to Yrraxea, her followers, and the rituals of Yrraxean worship. However, due to the fact that...
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    Into the Moral Darkness: (Now a Completed Story!)

    Master Searthu stepped forward and complied with Mallus’ request. He reached into a tube fastened to his waist and removed two pieces of paper. There were words written on the paper that he had prepared earlier in his office. “Kashan Umaam Diast.” As his associate waved his hands over...
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    How do you deal with canon fanatics?

    I know this isn't really going to be helpful ... but homebrew all the way, baby! Personally, I've never been interested in running a campaign in someone else's world. But, there are obviously a ton of people out there who are interested in it, so I'm not invalidating your question. Perhaps...
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    Explain "Story Hour" to Me.

    Wow, what an awesome (and rarely asked) question! There are several types of Story Hours: 1. Game Journal - This type is made by a player of an actual table top (or PbP) game who is chronicling their character's adventures from the perspective of the character. 2. Game Account - This type can...
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    How do your cure spells work?

    The way I figure is that as a player increases experience, they increase in their ability to take blows. I think that's how the flavor of the PHB reads to me, too. So, a 10 hit point attack is powerful enough that an inexperienced 1st level rogue winds up in deep trouble and likely 6 feet...
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    Into the Moral Darkness: (Now a Completed Story!)

    The discussion about the list broke up, and the rest of the searching party was told of the discovery. The Wizard’s College guards left the wizard’s chamber in order to seek out the three who had been working as assistants. Brandt, Master Searthu, Ophee, and the rest of the party continued to...
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    WotC Ads

    Wow, that's weird. I've gotten rid of the scoll bar (thank you!). But now the ENWorld logo is on the left where it should be but the add is all the way over on the right, as if it is right justified. Granted, absolutely not a problem at all. But it looks a bit odd. The ad still works and...
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    Small businesses in magic items

    I would have to agree with the other posters in theme. Who says Wal-mart Magicshops are dreaded? My approach is this: If I as the DM have given them the resources through treasure and the like and they want to blow it on an item that is from an approved book and isn't game-breaking, then what...
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