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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Thank you and I'm disappointed but can't say I'm shocked.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I consider Daggerheart an excellent game based on having played and run it - but it is absolutely the wrong game for you given what I know of your preferences. Different people have different tastes. As an aside I 100% would recommend it for the "narrative 4e" crowd like myself, @pemerton and...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Amazon US book sales rank.

    Just to put this into perspective I don't believe PF2e ever broke the top 150 of books on Amazon. Daggerheart is already, from basically a standing start (Candela Obscura went nowhere), challenging for second place. The big question is whether they can turn their game into a game line. And they...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Amazon US book sales rank.

    It's also part of the campaign frames and the setup there (which I don't have in PDF). The Quickstart adventure also has notes including and
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    D&D 5E (2014) Amazon US book sales rank.

    Just checked the UK Amazon sales ranks. The 2024 D&D PHB is claiming to be the #1 best seller in roleplaying and wargames despite having a rank of 626 in books. By contrast Daggerheart only has a books rank ... at 399 (and isn't even officially out until July on Amazon UK)
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Like I said game rules don't prevent you using loaded dice for your rules. And how is anyone going to know to ban them afterwards? Are you going to boast of it. But any reasonable person would consider it taking the piss and you would almost certainly be kicked from the table for using loaded...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    "I did badly enough at singing that made an awful caterwauling somewhere near where a guard was and now he's come to investigate? I don't understand how this can be and what caused it!" Seriously? If you made and failed a sing check it is because you were trying to sing and didn't do a good job.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    No. You're taking the existing fiction "We are on a mission to find the Desert Rose" and taking a giant steaming dump on it. You are ending the adventure. You also aren't declaring anything that is even vaguely under the control of your character or anything that they should be able to know in...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    And I am saying that you are clearly using the social contract of any game that allows player authorship for toilet paper. And if you are using the social contract for toilet paper you are being a jerk. What you can author is generally what you can know in character in advance. You clearly do...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I just thought I'd clarify some of this. We have two different modes of Game Mastering being discussed here. The Trad Simulationist and the Neo-Simulationist. Or to put things another way a (trad) DM and a PbtA MC. The DM created their dungeon. They set everything in there by their design and...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Just to step in, I'd add one in circumstances where it was appropriate to the game and style I was running the game in. To illustrate why the game matters I could be running two versions of the same dungeon, one in 1e and one in 5e. One of the key differences between the two systems is that...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    As I said to you quite a few pages ago when you were talking about exactly this example you can be a deliberate jerk. You can also bring loaded dice to the table; there's nothing in any rulebook I've ever read saying you can't. What - that jerks will expose themselves? What you're missing is...
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    Critical Role Announces Age of Umbra Daggerheart Campaign, Starting May 29th

    Indeed. There was a just over 40% death chance for each of them. And only about one in three both survived.
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    Critical Role Announces Age of Umbra Daggerheart Campaign, Starting May 29th

    It's also for two other reasons: Crit Role normally gets intense and dark but it takes a hundred sessions to build there; they have eight The Daggerheart playtest setting was borderline twee in its implied setting and Darrington want to point out that it doesn't have to be
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Technically he's right. But to actually make it matter in play in 99% of circumstances would be an example of what I've seen described as "zipper DMing"; a DM having a player's tadger caught in their zipper and doing damage because they haven't actually taken the step of declaring they are...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Because, to be blunt, you're not a deliberate jerk who is setting out to ruin the game. There's nothing explicit in most RPG rulebooks against using loaded dice - but you'd need to set out with malicious intent to do it. Most of the DMs I've had allow some fiction authoring by the players...
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    Daggerheart General Thread [+]

    The best piece of Daggerheart's design IMO is that you actively don't have to change from 5e to effectively run DH - but there are tools available if you want to.
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