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I've always thought Reckless Attack was a little weird in a narrative sense? Like it's a pretty game-y way of rendering the intended idea, that you're dropping your guard entirely for a (hopefully) killing blow. But as is, you could make your Reckless Attack, and spend the rest of your turn...

I have mixed feelings honestly. Like, I really enjoy a Ranger who has an animal that they're best buddies with, flavour wise. But I'm dubious about how worthwhile it is as a subclass at this point. I like the idea of all the Primal classes getting the option of having a beast companion, but...

I think all the "Primal classes" having the option to activate their signature ability with a ritual would be cool, thematic and useful. Rage, Wild Shape and... Whatever Ranger has. I may retool my Ranger homebrew thing to have that option later. Lessens the sting of having a number of uses...

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Sure yeah, I think that's a reasonable way of explaining it. Even just on the face of it without a deeper dive.

Alright, let me try and formulate my thoughts on all this properly. Yeah, all this. Particularly that bit about the different Circles representing different parts, processes or aspects of nature. And then also how they actually embody the power of nature, rather than being a part of it like...

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I think I agree on all fronts here! I'll give a more substantive response to each thing some other time, don't really have it in me right now due to real life events. But yeah, this is pretty close to the kind of perspective I was hoping someone'd offer up. So, thanks!

Oh sure, the latter's my main point with this, and I definitely agree with the former. That Rangers should have better usage of their unique supernatural abilities, rather. Me too, though part of me thinks they might have an easier time writing a table of strong and thematic class features, if...

It's nice when someone else says what I'd like to convey, but I'm not sure I have the right words or line of thought for.

But Wizards and Sorcerers are really distinct despite both being Arcane casters! Artificer too! They're an example of what I think Druid and Ranger lack in relation to eachother!

Oh well sure, I didn't mean to say Rangers get their magic literally from Druids necessarily. But they do get it as Druids do.

Oh sure, but it came up because @Minigiant said "There is nothing Primal about summoning weapons", and I couldn't think of an example of that being a thing for Ranger. But yeah it's fair to say for those 3 I think.

But it's literally what the book says! "Thanks to their familiarity with the wilds, rangers acquire the ability to cast spells that harness nature’s power, much as a druid does." I don't say it because I think we should bow to the book's edicts all-encompassingly, but. That is what's given to us...

Admittedly I've come to the same conclusion about Cordon of Arrows, Conjure Barrage & Volley. I think you could spin at least some of the others as being nature-y, but those 3 are a write-off in my mind. They're not very nature-y and don't fit the theme especially well beyond the superficial...

It bugs me that Rangers, as it stands, have a source of magic that's identical to Druid, except they're weaker. I do think a Ranger's power should still be backed by a connection to nature, but an expression of it that's at least a little different from Druid would be good. So you don't have...

It's neither here nor there, but. Do they summon weapons? Does anyone, particularly? As a part of their thing? I guess Blade Warlock arguably, but. Beyond that all I can think of is Shadow Blade, Spiritual Weapon, and uhh. I guess Mord's Sword. Maybe some others, I forget. Fair, fair. That's...

I still think there's a workable solution in there somewhere! I just... Haven't arrived at it yet. If the stereotypical Ranger is/can be the Druidic mindset, I feel like it ought to be workable without just making them a Druid in all but name, mechanics and behaviour, y'know?

I just think this sort of view can be how you end up cutting the head off the Forest Spirit, and unleashing the Night-Walker in your hubris! That's definitely true of Warlocks of course, in fact I feel like it's more the standard than the deviation a lot of the time. But that's what I was...

I won't say they can't, but I do dislike it. Because that's an incomplete picture in my reckoning, it lacks a true knowing of nature's, uh. Nature. Which a Ranger should have, by virtue of being a Ranger. "Nature has it's own clarity. It lives without marking the time, dies in a way that renews...