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Unless they give out financial data without commentary...there's very little WottC could state that would be 100% unambiguous. That's the nature of language. Edit: Also what did they deceive their consumers about concerning 4e?

Yeah there's marketing and then there's deceptive marketing and I'm trying to understand where the marketing speak around the PHB is being deceptive.

What are they deceiving you about in the statement given?

Yes but the term weasl words implies they are being dishonest or at the least misleading... what is misleading about the statement? It's a precise single fact that isn't elaborated on with unknowable speculation. In fact I'd argue trying to pull it apart as opposed to taking it at face value is...

What exactly are they supposed to be concealing... is it or is it not the fastest selling edition at this point...Regardless of why, unless WotC made a definitive statement about that. This statement by Mearls feels like he's insinuating they are lying but doesn't state what they are supposedly...

I don't know... thats why I asked. It seems they are working on at least 1 game... Exodus.

Actually what moves have Hasbro made to garner a piece of the videogame market? My impression was that they were going after the steady revenue that a subscription model offers through DnD Beyond... which is not a videogame.

Ok I'm not missing anything then.

This along with D&D '24, D&D 2024 and D&D 5.24. Also I'm not sure what relevance comparing it to Baldurs Gate (a videogame that won game of the year) has... I feel like maybe I'm missing something here.

Well it's pretty clear you have already come to the conclusion that whatever pre-determined course of events, motivations and actions with no real firsthand or secondhand knowledge.l you believe happened did... so cool but I'll choose to put more stovck into what those with actual knowledge and...

That's not how feedback and negotiations of contracts work.

Here's an interesting data point... The Grimhollow Transformed kickstarter is labeled as 5e 2024 and has funded with close to a million dollars... I know it's just one kickstarter but it seems to go in the opposite direction of the doom and gloom predictions around 2024 D&D...

I agree with this... the thing is it's great for sales for that company but it doesn't seem to really grow the player base, or diversify the hobby in a meaningful way.

Good point... this game isn't out yet but Avatar the Last Airbender was another million dollar kickstarter that it feels like no one is playing.

But Solasta isn't one of those supplements and when dealing with something created at a specific time in perpetuity... and without knowing the exact intent of those who created it... can lead to unintended consequences that aren't just non-suportive of the ecosystem... but actively harm it.

Now this I agree with... though I think it was more along the lines of Hasbro execs not understanding the game they were playing.

Lol...OK who are the plenty of folks you've seen taking your position...

Yes and playing any fantasy videogame "might" get someone interested in D&D but I wouldn't claim that's supporting D&D nor did I say the only way was to pay a licensing fee...

Success for who and in what way?

You asked a question and I gave my answer. Some assumption in this discussion is necessary....plenty of folks here is still a drop of water in an ocean compared to the actual number of D&D players. You are claiming it's a problem so it is on you to present evidence that it actually is.