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To be clear, I don't think "a strong D&D makes for a strong TTRPG market" inherently. I was relaying what a Paizo dev stated, that 5e specifically has been a case of that, but I also noted later it seems to have been a perfect storm, and no small part of that is geekdom being in zeitgeist right...

Firstly, I'd point out that I didn't claim it was "basically the same", I said "no better or worse". Secondly, D&D can and has been adapted to various other genres as evidenced by the absolute glut of d20 products, even more so during the 3.X era. The core makes it adaptable.

I'd like to see other games grow without D&D "commercially capsizing", myself. It's not a zero-sum game in that manner.

It doesn't seem any better or worse than any other "generic" system. Sure, it will have a specific tone, but so does Savage Worlds, and BRP, and GURPS. But then I prefer bespoke/dedicated systems, myself.

You must be visiting the sub at a very different time of day than I then, but the anti-5e stuff is a plurality and highly upvoted. I go to game-specific subs and discord channels for discussion about those games on their own merits, so agree it would be weird to be bring up any other game in...

I wasn't suggesting RPGnet was hostile to D&D, it's pretty apathetic towards it. Though the fotm thing is comical. The /rpg subreddit absolutely has a sizeable subsect that is anti-D&D. They're cool with PF, but 5e is beyond the pale. Discord and certain subreddits, mostly.

That is precisely what Passive Perception is for in 5e, though it certainly doesn't seem to get used as much as I think it should. I actually also use "passive" knowledge as well. And decouple skills from attributes (how I wish that was made default)

I'd note that this is clearly a D&D focussed board - look at how much more traffic and interaction the D&D sub-forum gets compared to RPG General. While the reverse is true of the purple site, for example. Other online spaces I've frequented tend to be actively hostile to D&D, while I don't...

Maybe their stomach was making the rumblies that only hands could satisfy?

You mean like when @TwoSix stated that perception skills shouldn't exist (which would, at best, fundamentally alter several RPGs, including the most successful one to date) because they dislike simulationism? Because that's the only example I've seen in this thread of what you're talking...

Crowdfunding was a thing years before 5e came out. Kickstarter itself launched back in 2009. Sure, it's facilitating a host of indie (and not so indie) projects that probably wouldn't exist without it, but the audience for them is only as large as it is thanks to 5e. Bit of a wombo combo.

Both Stranger Things and Critical Role are contributing factors, but they're a "win more" situation. It seems to have been a perfect storm of D&D's playtesting to ensure a broad appeal ("everyone's second favourite" edition syndrome) combined with geek culture being in the zeitgeist as evidenced...

Yeah. The other part of the Paizo dev's comment was that the pie is so large, that even though they're getting a narrower slice compared to the 4e era, it's more pie overall. 5e's breakout success really was a case of rising tides lifting all ships.

Given the global naughty word show, I'd say grunge is due a revival.

D&D5e is the single largest, most commercially successful RPG to date. It utterly dwarfs every other single RPG in existence. A few years ago, over on the /rpg subreddit, one of the Paizo devs stated that he reckons they (Paizo) have "no more than 2%, and probably less than 1%, market share"...

That terminology is certainly one of the contributing factors to people claiming PbtA feels restrictive or boardgamey. John Harper rephrases "Soft Moves" and "Hard Moves" as "set-up/telegraph" and "follow through", which I think does a better job of capturing the intent.

We're in agreement here. There's differences, of course, but I see so much overlap that I'm genuinely bewildered by suggestions to the contrary.

Maybe is this is an aesthetic preference, but I don't find a player facing graphic to do anything to make Doskvol "feel real". Every appropriate advance in the fiction should tick a clock, but every tick should result in the change it represents being narrated, and that narration is what's...

Also an incredibly dubious proposition judging by the roaring success of Cortex.

What, like some sort of world that seems alive, with cause and effect? Going back to BitD - and since I've been accused of cherry-picking, I'll quote the whole passage (pg206): Sounds awfully similar to @robertsconley's "living world", huh? Odd how some Narrativists seem to rail against what...