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I think we need to realigned this thread on his original goal : Provide solutions to the martial-caster case. Ok, I agree I didnt help much in that way. I would give a try to a skill system where there is no ability modifier and use instead the PB bonus or a fixed bonus Like +3 or +4...

”Drink Coca Cola” like messages will certainly be the more common usage!

I would run it as a Conan like story. Throw enemy evil Wizards and kings on his path, meanwhile let chance to make trustworthy friends and allies. I don’t see reason to limits any the usual stuff we can see in DnD . in Fact a solo champion fighter have no limitation in DnD. The main concern for...

Thank for the data. Those stats are always surprising, considering the unsatisfaction we see here about the fighter. The new playtest have not change fighter that much on the major points of unsatistaction, but I guess that we will have the same stats in 2030. so there is still a mystery to...

I guess that you need more to play the most valuable character of the party.

That is sad. In DnD Fighter like character, can safely have no fear to die and charge into fight against all odds.

You are missing the point. The mundane guy is a fantasy Archetype. A character with only human capacity, with no magical, psionic, mutation, or surnatural power. In front of some challenge he can simply do nothing without external help. In front of a wall of force like in the OP the mundane guy...

Over the last ten years I play and see play 5ed fighters and even Champion by experienced players and they got a lot a fun with it. Fighter is not only for newbie that need a simpler class to begin the game. The mundane guy is a valid role in any fantasy. The mundane guy can have goals and...

But considering the popularity of 4ed, it was in fact much less people who like to play fighter.

According to DnD beyond data Fighter is a popular choice. That create a mystery. Why people like to play a crappy class!

I wonder, do anyone has been witness of games where DM abuse of anti magic shell and other magical turn off, to the point that the party feel compelled to add martial in the party to survive?

Honestly referring to eggs analogy I prefer “You can't make a good session without breaking a few rules.”

I just check out the Forced march rule in the PHB. The first time I read it after ten years of playing. I wonder how many here know or have even read this rule. Indeed if a DM apply this rule nobody can run after orcs for 3 days and night. So as most DM don’t know this rule we go back to the...

I believe so, a given set of rules compel players to put on the back bench old buddies because they choose to play fighter. That is easy manipulation.

DnD players are so easy to be manipulated!

It‘s a game! You usually play it to have fun! if someone want to face overwhelming ennemies that shut down all his capacities, then he can to into a real life war. The job of the DM is to provide a setup where every players and PCs will be able to shine. A DM can make the life of casters or...

Then the problem is not in the game rules but rather in how players and DM decide to put the Fighter on the back bench.

I agree survivalist life style is still trending.

Indeed items are for mere fun. If PCs need transportation to go somewhere they will eventually always find a way to go where they want whatever the party composition.

I feel sad for DM that play the Grunge rather than Santa when it’s time to give items to their PCs.