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A thought experiment. If we take the conservative view of this, and say that the current number one spot is a book no one in their right mind would buy, so it's probably not selling that well, and the second spot is taken by a four year old book which means that most of the sales were milked...

True. But then again, me getting carried away about this isn't hurting anyone. :p So I'll just go overboard and say "WOOOT! THIS IS AWESOME! THEY ARE SELLING LOADS OF BOOKS!" And if it turns out that the reason they hit the number one spot was that everything else sold like pants, well at...

Yeah. But I wasn't talking about the SRD nor about Pathfinder. My observation was that I think it is a good observation that WotC released a fully playable basic game, and that it doesn't seem to have hurt the sales. That is all. /m

I think it is a good observation. Even though the format of the digital offerings are different, the fact that WotC puts out a free basic game in PDF means that few sales are due to people having to "buy to check it out". They can download the basic game, and then decide if that was enough to...

Yeah, but my players are "slow" to engage the fixed plot. They keep on doing a lot of other stuff not covered in the official adventures, so they level differently. It's both fun and frustrating at the same time. Me as DM: Yeah, well all clues points in this direction ... Players: Let's go...

Once. So once in every 32 years so far. Trending towards once in every 33 years. But maybe my Kingmaker campaign players will at least see level 20 on the horizon. Cheers! /Maggan

For some, finding a new game is simple. It might be from that standpoint that they suggest walking out. If finding a new game is hard, then that option is of course not very tempting. I suggest being frank, and explaining to the DM that you feel uncomfortable playing with him, and list reasons...

Maybe they wanted more funds? That would fit. Having autonomy (at whatever level) doesn't mean that you never ask for assistance anywhere else. It could go like this*: WotC: Hey we need more money! Hasbro: Why? WotC: We're releasing a new version of D&D. Hasbro: What? WotC: (sigh) that satanic...

I can't imagine that the D&D team has a free ticket to do what they want, no questions asked. In all these discussions, WotC management seems to be totally forgotten. They can probably be mean bastards too. :D So I don't know if D&D5 is having it easy. Even if Hasbro is hands off, WotC still...

Next time, ask him if he's got a degree! That'll put many issues to rest, I feel. :D /Maggan

Great, at least we now agree that there isn't one formula that fits all businesses. It is possible for one business to run a subsidiary differently from another business. And all evidence points to WotC being left very alone from Hasbro interference. I haven't seen any sources that indicate...

Probably to show that they had a plan. A plan that sounded like it had been thought through. WotC were probably selling their confidence on the plan, not "Damage on a Miss" mechanics. High level stuff, rollout plans, distribution maybe, communicative strategy, stuff like that. So much in...

Thanks for the examples! It's a lot easier to think about this if I have some sort of image in my head as to what we're talking about. As for the examples, I don't think even WotC would allow any of those products to make it to market. ;) So yeah, I agree Hasbro has a veto power over WotC...

Sort of like Hasbro saying "make sure D&D makes money. And it has to generate 25%* profit." Which then would necessitate that the designers do a good enough job that such a target is met. But I really would'nt characterise that as "creative involvment". That's more "business involvement", in my...

Ok, fair enough, you didn't like the quote. But you did ask for a link. Maybe you can give me a link back confirming your own stance on the matter? Someone inside WotC saying that Hasbro is actively managing the D&D property, maybe. EDIT: After all, what Charles Ryan confirmed was at least that...

http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?273971-It-feels-to-me-like-Hasbro-has-lit-a-fire-under-Wizards-of-the-Coast-and-given-them/page4&p=5132836&viewfull=1#post5132836 That whole thread is a quite interesting read. Charles Ryan worked for WotC previously, and is considered a man of high...

I'm wrapping up the Kingmaker campaign for Pathfinder, and I finally think that I have enough grasp of the rules to confidently run another campaign. I have stuff I want to try, adventures that would fit the players well. But at the same time, I am curious and a little bit excited to see what...

For me, WotC developing a new system from the ground up is enough added to explain the price difference. Paizo had an incredible head start with 3.5, and didn't have to recoup the costs of creating Pathfinder from scratch. This should influence the cost of selling the system, as well as the...

I'd buy it for 50 dollars If that's the price, and the product is not 20 pages long or printed on toilet paper, I'd buy it to check out where D&D is going. /M

FWIW: I'll buy it Well, I'm not concerned about the price from a personal perspective. It's not cheap, and I don't need it really (I've got enough rpgs already), but I think it's fun to keep up with the development of D&D over the years. If it's cheaper I won't protest but it'd have to creep...