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Except, you know, if it was never intended to grant you near-permanent advantage (assuming decent Athletics) and was more of an "assist your melee allies" move?

Except, you know, if it was never intended to grant you near-permanent advantage (assuming decent Athletics) and was more of an "assist your melee allies" move?

An early version of the FAQ said that yes, he would not be appearing in the animation. I just checked it again and this answer has been removed from the list, but I think it's highly likely that this is still the case. Edit: Wait never mind, I'm just blind:

My point is that basically everything else about the 5E rules screams simplicity and ease of play. This strongly implies (to me) that you shouldn't have to run a Schrodinger's Action thought experiment on every round of combat. You can shove a creature with your action, because you don't have...

My point is that basically everything else about the 5E rules screams simplicity and ease of play. This strongly implies (to me) that you shouldn't have to run a Schrodinger's Action thought experiment on every round of combat. You can shove a creature with your action, because you don't have...

If I saw this in the rules text of a TTRPG game, I would put the book down and never even consider playing it. There's a pretty clear precedent for sections of your turn that happen before and after your action, for example the movement rules specifically say: "You can break up your movement...

If I saw this in the rules text of a TTRPG game, I would put the book down and never even consider playing it. There's a pretty clear precedent for sections of your turn that happen before and after your action, for example the movement rules specifically say: "You can break up your movement...

This language in the Sage Advice Compendium is quite clear that the phrasing of the condition applies to the entire game, not just Shield Master: "This sort of if-then setup appears in many of the game’s rules. The “if” must be satisfied before the “then” comes into play." I'll refer you to...

This language in the Sage Advice Compendium is quite clear that the phrasing of the condition applies to the entire game, not just Shield Master: "This sort of if-then setup appears in many of the game’s rules. The “if” must be satisfied before the “then” comes into play." I'll refer you to...

To be clear, the only thing I object to is the notion that you can declare you'll take the Attack action later on your turn, then use your Shield Master bonus action to shove first and give yourself near-permanent advantage if you have good Athletics. JEC has described the intent of the TWF...

To be clear, the only thing I object to is the notion that you can declare you'll take the Attack action later on your turn, then use your Shield Master bonus action to shove first and give yourself near-permanent advantage if you have good Athletics. JEC has described the intent of the TWF...

I was replying to your last sentence, where you claimed the wording of TWF and Shield Master's bonus actions was the same. The triggering part of the TWF bonus action (i.e. the "if you X" part of "if you X, you can Y") has very different language, that's all I'm saying. Edit: And again, I'm...

I was replying to your last sentence, where you claimed the wording of TWF and Shield Master's bonus actions was the same. The triggering part of the TWF bonus action (i.e. the "if you X" part of "if you X, you can Y") has very different language, that's all I'm saying. Edit: And again, I'm...

If this is true, why is the wording of TWF fighting different than Shield Master? TWF is triggered by making an attack with a light weapon, and thus can come between attacks in the Attack action. If Shield Master said "If you take the Attack action on your turn and make an attack with a weapon...

If this is true, why is the wording of TWF fighting different than Shield Master? TWF is triggered by making an attack with a light weapon, and thus can come between attacks in the Attack action. If Shield Master said "If you take the Attack action on your turn and make an attack with a weapon...

No it's not? Shield Master: "If you take the Attack action on your turn, you can use a bonus action to try to shove a creature within 5 feet of you with your shield." Two-Weapon Fighting: "When you take the Attack action and attack with a light melee weapon that you're holding in one hand, you...

No it's not? Shield Master: "If you take the Attack action on your turn, you can use a bonus action to try to shove a creature within 5 feet of you with your shield." Two-Weapon Fighting: "When you take the Attack action and attack with a light melee weapon that you're holding in one hand, you...

Again, that's not how bonus action timing works. Shield Master absolutely has a trigger (the Attack action) which must be completed before you even have the bonus action to take. Flurry of Blows is addressed in the Sage Advice video, for reference. In this case, the discrete element of...

Again, that's not how bonus action timing works. Shield Master absolutely has a trigger (the Attack action) which must be completed before you even have the bonus action to take. Flurry of Blows is addressed in the Sage Advice video, for reference. In this case, the discrete element of...

Let me try explaining this in a slightly different way. I've been talking about your turn as an ordered list of discrete elements. However, the part I probably should've emphasized more is that you play and resolve each element one at a time, i.e. you don't declare the full list at the start...