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There is also no language there that says that you do have to hold on. It's an interpretation, sure, but, it's not the only one, nor is it any more "reasonable" than any other. After all, nothing about the boots of flying state anything about your balance while flying. Do you have to maintain...

None of which are actually in the rules. :erm: I mean, what's the difference with flying boots? You have nothing to brace yourself with, so, how could you possibly swing a weapon without completely spiraling out of control? Are those flying boots stable enough that you can wave your arms...

See, the problem there becomes scale. Battlesystem is too big for ship combat. Battlesystem is for hundreds of combatants. I've never found a decent system for what I call platoon level combat. Say 30 (ish) on a side. Which is typically what you're going to find on a D&D era ship. Base...

Hang on a tick. Where is this about Sleight of Hands being used for Pick Locks or Remove Traps? There is nothing listing Sleight of Hand for picking locks or disarming traps that I could find. Where is that listed?

Thieves Tools were always used for opening locks or disabling traps. 🤷

Heh. Just to echo a few of the problems I've had with this sort of campaign: 1. The players will NOT be willing to help you here. While you might think the day to day running of a ship is interesting and fun, they will do everything in their power to not engage in it. Trade? Nope...

I have to admit that trying to apply physics to a flying broom is hilarious. You have no problem with the broom flying, turning, whatever, but doing it without two hands? Oh, no, that's the seventh impossible thing before breakfast. :lol:

There's another point to remember as well - adventurers get RICH. How many thousands and thousands of people left happy homes to go pan for gold in California during the Gold Rush, despite a death rate similar to what you would find in open combat? The lure of wealth is a HUGE incentive.

My I introduce you to Magellen? Or pretty much any per-Rennaisance explorer you'd care to name? What, you figure the Vikings, heading into Newfoundland, just shook hands with everyone and everything they met? When Ibn Battuta toured around the known world, he was imprisoned a number of times...

Well, other than you're just adding house rules, but, sure, it's not a bad one. But, again, totally missing the point. The point is that a broom, or boots, will ALWAYS be chosen over something interesting but less practical. And, broom or boots will be chosen over carpet, every time, for the...

Not quite my point though. The players will look at the items that grant flight and will choose the item that is the "best" of any option. At cheapest, fastest, and easiest to use, the Broom of Flying beats out any other choice by a mile. And they will get a Broom of Flying LOOOOOONG before...

Oh, sorry. I thought I had. Obviously Perception is top, same as everyone else. Athletics ranks very high in games I run because I use a lot of obstacles and terrain. If you can't climb, swim, or do various other Athletics based things, your character is going to struggle at my table...

I'm sorry, I do not actually understand what any of that means. You can attack someone with manacles? Nice idea but, since I almost never use humanoid opponents, it won't come up. Heck, even as a player, again, since 3e, I am the only person I've ever seen whose character has manacles. No...

Would you not use thieves tools for that? Since 2025 came out, no one has actually tried to pick a lock, so, I actually don't know the rules.

Really? Yeah, my players are not like that at all. I haven't seen players try to randomly steal stuff since high school.

I think it also heavily depends on the campaigns that the DM is running. I mean, as @TiQuinn says, they play a lot of urban fantasy. So, sure, social skills and sleight of hand become a lot more called upon than, say, athletics (although, that depends on how much rooftop chases your urban...

I guess. Again, these are so situational that it's just never come up. Even as far back as 3e, pickpocking was just never done. Poisoning a drink? Again, never seen a PC do that. If they want an NPC dead, there are just so many other ways of doing it. Like I said, I've never actually seen...

Wow. Sleight of Hand? Really? I can’t say I’ve ever seen this used. What for? And you folks aren’t using enough hazards if you think athletetics isn’t top tier. I adore water traps. Oh, you dumped strength and no athletics training? Good luck not drowning. We use athletics all the time...

Oh, again, I totally understand why players do it. Heck, I probably do it to some degree when I am a player too. It's not like I don't understand the reasoning. I just don't like it very much. :p Like, why buy winged boots (uncommon) when a Broom of Flying is faster, can work independently...

I gotta admit it utterly baffles me. I mean, good grief, 4e's been dead and buried for over ten years now. Who cares? I LIKE 4e and I can't understand why every single time anyone mentions the dreaded 4e, the editions warriors come out of the woodwork to tell all in sundry how bad 4e is...