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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Computational Theory encompasses elements of complexity theory, automata theory, and game theory. All things relevant to a system of game mechanics. So it is applicable to Burning Wheel as it is a game with a system of mechanics. The moment a resolution mechanic exists, especially one that...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Throughout this thread, multiple individuals, including myself, @Bedrockgames, and others, have offered detailed, well-reasoned accounts of our respective approaches to sandbox campaigns. In turn, you have persistently criticized and dismissed those views, often without acknowledging the...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Or Basket weaving, @hawkeyefan may get the reference from our previous discussion. This is why I use the phrase "trashing the setting" a lot. A major part of how I run sandbox campaigns is letting any expectations that things ought to go in a particular way. I will roleplay out anything (within...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It has nothing to do with the 1977 Monster Manual.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yes, I can confirm that given the same Initial Context set in the same situation that there are a LOT of different ways it will play out. I have done extensive playtesting of various Sandbox Adventures, most involving what would be considered a mystery. The oldest of these is Scourge of the...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    @mamba is correct. In computational theory, it is well established that any simulation is necessarily a simplification; it cannot fully capture the complexity of the system it represents. This principle applies equally to games, tabletop roleplaying., and specific systems like Burning Wheel...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I would appreciate it if you leave the accusations of the one true wayism out of the discussion. @Bedrockgames has been extraordinarily patient with many posters here explaining what he does with sandbox campaigns and how he views them. I took the time to ask the questions that were needed to...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    At this point in the thread, this shouldn’t be surprising. What is surprising is the continued mischaracterization of sandbox campaigns despite numerous clarifications. After extensive replies addressing misconceptions, including directly answering a series of specific questions from...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    All I can say when I release my Scourge of the Demon Wolf, 2nd edition I will be glad to comp you the PDF. Three died. They were mauled beyond recognition. The Baron sent his huntsmen to kill the beasts and for a fortnight they tramped across the countryside. Between their whoring and drinking...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    From experience, even social geography has a physical component as a result of living and working at specific location. But plopping folks down a blank hex grid and saying "Go Forth and explore" is a niche taste and not one I share. There are green blobs empty of details because that made sense...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I believe I did that with highlighting the difference between a sandbox campaign with GURPS Discworld versus a GURPS Majestic Wilderlands coupled with the fact I describe the Majestic Wilderlands and the Majestic Fantasy Realms as Medieval Fantasy setting. Not at all because I make it clear...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It does not, but it is understandable why you would make that assumption, given how sandbox campaigns are generally viewed in the hobby. Exploration, in how I view sandbox campaigns, is the discovery of what is unknown, whatever its form—physical, social, mystical, or philosophical.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Despite it history and association with sandbox campaigns my campaign doesn't do much in the way of exploration of geography. Instead what happens is this. On the left is what most players adventuring in the City-State region know about Dearthwood. A green blob with some major geographical...
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