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  1. Charlaquin

    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    Clarification: I didn’t say and don’t believe you can’t use Reactions on your own turn. I said Reactions are the only way to act off-turn, and they always have a specific triggering condition and an effect you can spend a reaction to do in response to that trigger. If that trigger happens to...
  2. Charlaquin

    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    I don’t think that’s entirely clear, but in my opinion you do perform the Magic Action as a Reaction when you Ready casting a spell.
  3. Charlaquin

    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    I see. You’re saying the goal of *performing this sequence of game actions” is to circumvent a limitation, not that the goal of interpreting the rules as permitting this sequence of game actions is to do so. But, see, the way I interpret the rules, this sequence of game actions isn’t...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    Action Surge prevents you from using the Magic Action on your turn. To quote: You can push yourself beyond your normal limits for a moment. On your turn, you can take one additional action, except the Magic action. Once you use this feature, you can’t do so again until you finish a Short or...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    That doesn’t answer the question. A Fighter can cast a spell and then attack. But they can’t attack and then cast a spell. What’s the in-fiction reason for that? Well, this depends on what casting a spell actually is in the fiction. I’m rather fond of Gorilla of Destiny’s theory of magic, which...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    So, again, we’re bumping up against the problem of the word “action” being used both as the name of a resource you spend to do things on your turn, and the name of the things you spend that resource to do. In my understanding, the Ready Action costs one use of the resource called an “action,”...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    It does, but the magic item effects they were asking about were not spells. I would still say it’s not possible, because Readying the Magic Action to do something other than casting a spell does not list the same exception as using it to cast a spell does, so clearly you do take the Magic Action...
  8. Charlaquin

    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    The Ready Action does not specifically say you get a second Action on your turn.
  9. Charlaquin

    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    I would say no. Because the Ready Action does say you use the Action you ready in response to the chosen trigger as a Reaction. Just because you’re spending a Reaction to use the Magic Action in response to a trigger rather than spending an Action to do it on your turn, doesn’t mean you aren’t...
  10. Charlaquin

    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    The goal is absolutely not to circumvent a limitation by a clever arrangement of the rules, and it is specifically this characterization of my genuine interpretation of the rules that I object to, and the reason I’m still here trying to explain to people how I arrived at this interpretation. I...
  11. Charlaquin

    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    What’s the fictional reason that you can’t use the magic action with action surge again?
  12. Charlaquin

    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    Because it’s a question about the rules. Moreover, the fiction is malleable. You can always come up with a fictional explanation of what the mechanics dictate, because it’s all make-believe. But the rules are concrete. You can change them if you want to, but they say what they say.
  13. Charlaquin

    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    Again, I think Ready is intended to be an Action. The interpretation gets a lot cleaner when you accept that this is the case.
  14. Charlaquin

    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    Clearly that’s the case, yes. Except in the specific case of using Ready to cast a spell, in which case there are other instructions in the text, which tell you to simply cast the spell as normal, and release it later as your Reaction. Again, that doesn’t make any sense because you only get one...
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    D&D General What is your favorite d&d world's one unique thing.

    Nentir Vale has an extremely tight metaphysical setup. Both its core pantheon and its extraplanar structure feels very purposeful and well designed. The flip side of that is that it’s really not very organic, so if you like that Gygaxian pseudo-naturalism, you won’t really find it in Nentir...
  16. Charlaquin

    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    I’m not sure bad faith means what you think it means. Bad faith is when you’re arguing for a position you don’t genuinely hold, for some ulterior motive. Usually a rhetorical one, but in this case it would be to gain some in-game advantage. As I am not a player in @ECMO3 ‘s game, I don’t stand...
  17. Charlaquin

    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    With you so far. Well, in this case, what you’re Readying is releasing a spell. Again, the text of the Ready Action clearly lays out how this works, in specific exception to how you Ready things other than casting a spell. Yes, I understand that your interpretation relies on “cast the spell as...
  18. Charlaquin

    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    Sure, but what it prevents from happening is the Magic Action. And the Ready Action is not the Magic Action. Granted, it can produce similar effects (e.g. casting spells), but not on your turn, at an additional resource cost (a Reaction and Concentration), and usually not if you’ve already cast...
  19. Charlaquin

    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    It says you cast it. This is a specific exception to the general rule that casting a spell with a casting time of 1 action requires using the Magic action. That’s the only way to make sense of the text, given that the Ready Action is not the Magic Action, but it says you can use it to cast a...
  20. Charlaquin

    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    Given that nothing about the text indicates that Ready allows you to take a second action on your turn, context makes it incredibly obvious that “as normal” is referring to the normal costs and consequences based on the method of casting (e.g. a class feature, a species feature, a feat, or a...
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