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There has never been any exclusive definition of ‘D&D edition’. This is the first and only time that there has been any debate on the matter - where WotC have deliberately avoided calling a new edition what it is. I wouldn’t have minded if they had actually called it something else for clarity...

Actually it was quoted to illustrate the ridiculous nature of the attitude on display. People don’t get to redefine the English language in their own image. ‘Edition’ is a term of common usage not a trademark. Moreover, WotC didn’t try to define what is was, only enforce what they unilaterally...

Then why are we debating this? Why aren’t we discussing new builds and the like? Why is this review and many others, along with many other fans online and in person actually talking about this at all? Because it is a new edition to them.....and the customer is not wrong! Aside from the people...

I haven’t claimed they are lying. I have simply stated that their stance is ridiculous. They don’t get to force their fans to adjust their understanding of the word ‘edition’ just because it suits WotC’s marketing. And I repeat, I am customer of WotC. I have bought these new books and I like a...

I am talking about the policy on their platforms where they have slapped down talk of it being a new edition with censorship and sanctions. None of this is misinformation - it is information their marketing team don’t want people talking about. That some fans just want to parrot what WotC says...

You can use either edition with 1st edition books and make it work. It was actually a design goal for 5E while it was being developed back in 2013-14 that old time gamers could still use old adventures with the new rules. It really isn’t that unusual in RPGs to have backwards compatibility...

Sigh. Wizards of the Coast don’t get to redefine ‘edition’ for their own marketing purposes. Etc. etc. etc. Carry on if you like. You are actively putting off D&D customers the longer you do. For me, the ignore button will do.

They are still editions though aren’t they? Edition simply means it is a specific form of that book that is distinct from other forms of that book. It isn’t a dirty word - it is simply an acknowledgement that there are changes from previous editions. Call it a revised edition. At least call...

You aren’t resisting any misinformation. You’re just having a bit of a meltdown. You acknowledge there is a rules revision. That is the point. It is a revised set of rules and, accordingly, a new edition because of this. It is an absurdity to try and police the notion that it must not be...

Any marketing expert will tell you that if you have to keep shouting down different people who aren’t ‘on message’ with the thing you want them to be saying, then there is something wrong with your marketing strategy. There is. It is a new edition. No confusion.

The Essentials line was released when 4E was tanking and was really an attempt to appeal to OSR customers with its stripped back rules and throwback covers as well as the indie crowd with its digest sized format. It still had a ‘Essentials’ title that provided a point of difference though. The...

I think what a few posters on this thread may be missing is that arguing against criticism of a RPG company with terminal intensity actually just puts off more customers.

I think they already have.

And the fans don’t care. WotC don’t get to redefine the English language to suit their marketing needs. It is a new edition by any metric. It has new rules, requires new core books to be bought and outmodes the previous core rulebooks. That is a new edition. Nobody would need to make any...

Just to state, as well, I have pre-ordered all three of the core books - physically from my FLGS and electronically from D&D Beyond. My own capsule review from the previews I have seen thinks that the books look better organised and easier to use, with more character building options in the...

No it isn’t. The root cause is from the company. Fans will say and do whatever they do - and they have no obligation, whatsoever in terms of their chatter ‘harming' the company. It is up to WotC to either try and control this or not worry about it. They have failed in both aspects....and here we...

I’m not sure that Skyrealm of Jorune is ahead of its time as much as it is fairly peculiar even today. Immortals was trying to do a White Wolf Vampire-style RPG for less morally challenging...well..Immortals, basically. It was following a trend in my view rather than ahead of one and was a...

You are arguing all these points, and that is why discourse is fundamentally dishonest. There is no official name. A year of publication is not a name unless it indicates what it actually is. If they said it was the 2024 Edition that would be a thing. If they said it was a Revised Edition that...

It apparently matters to WotC. That is all.

Yes. You are arguing that a new edition isn’t a new edition because you say it is not a new edition. It is a logical fallacy...and to be clear you are literally arguing the definition of a circular argument now too. We are paying customers. That doesn’t sound like we have axe to grind. On a...