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I saw at least one computer game kickstarter that hung fire in part because they'd made the mistake of offering a t-shirt.

You still have to interact with them though, and the point when things have gone pear-shaped enough, its all too attractive to not do that.

Its a good question, since there seems to be some pretty varied experiences even within one game system.

It is a very common phenomenon for people, once they've missed enough cycles on response on Kickstarter to just--hide. Its kind of a reversed sunk-cost-fallacy thing.

That's probably it (interesingly, I couldn't get there via the link directly; I had to copy it to a second tab). And like the posters in the other thread, it only happens here.

Red Markets looks like it does a great job at what its trying to do, but my gaming group is pretty unsuited for it.

I can only carry over my experience from SotDL, but if one wanted to avoid a flat bonus system and get into diminishing returns on both penalties and bonuses, I think boon/bane is a great way to go.

It would help if there wasn't a history of GMs, particular in the D&D-sphere, crowing about their body count. Not every GM in lethal games are doing that, but it leaves a stink across the process, especially if the GM's encounter choices look over the top. Yeah, people that like lighter toned...

Only true if its all about that one character and nothing else.

That's true. But they don't seem to suggest people doing the opposite are playing lesser games for the most part, and I see plenty of that from people who consider a game with lethality necessary. I'd argue most of the people who want that aren't going to play in most horror games anyway.

And I think when it comes up, its much more common than you seem to think it is. Then perhaps reassess that my argument means I'm hostile to games with lethal risk to characters and stop jumping to conclusions.

Only if there's no consequence to the combat outside the situation of the PCs. That doesn't fit most combats in any game I've ever been in except occasional wandering encounters during the early days. (And I'm not going to hold conflating me with someone else that shares some common views in...

I mean, the truth is, I'm not going to be onboard arguments on either side here that says there's no tension in superhero combats (which are almost always about something beyond personal survival, and where sometimes personal survival is distinctly secondary), or at the other end there's no...

Not to put too fine a point on it, but--so? That doesn't mean the impact on the player is any less. In some cases it can be more. I don't think its as high on the priority of people as you do as-is, or people wouldn't die for their friends, their country or a principal as often as they do...

And? But they could have gotten what mattered to them done before dying. Unless all that really matters to them in the end is surviving. I haven't suggested its better; what I have suggested and stick to is that if games without death in combat can't produce tension, then in the end, the...

Three is a good compromise over the raft of people medical texts and legal books get; you probably get to diminishing returns after that anyway (the only reason those type of works get more is the consequences of missing one can be drastic there). That said, if you get more than one full time...

The problem is that given the wide range of people who will run into problem with this, it uses an awfully expansive cateogry for "jerk".

As someone who used to do editing, including in the game industry its astonishing what will slip past you. I've had things I must have read a dozen times that I suddenly spotted when the actual book arrived. Some of it is that since the work is often a moving target, you come to expect the...

When you've got a language that probably started out as a pidgin, that sort of thing is going to happen.

That's an issue with most people not wanting to really engage with the consequences of failure, and is just as true whatever those consequences are. And honestly, RPGs are a leisure time activity; if people don't feel like dealing with heavy negative consequences in that that's their choice...