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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    This isn't accurate. There is all the information the player, and their PC, has about the dungeon. There is the fact that the PC is subject to a complication: d12 Lost in the Dungeon. There is the fact that one of the PC's distinctions is Solitary Traveller. That is not an accurate description...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    By telling all the other participants that I (as my PC) am picking my nose, and getting them to agree. If all the players agree that my PC is picking his nose - suppose they start calling my PC "pemerton the picker", explain the nickname to NPCs that the PCs meet, etc - what is the GM going to...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    The game was deliberately emulating/evoking ideas from classic D&D: eg Castle Amber, Tomb of Horrors etc. But as @clearstream, @Gimby and I have also posted, the episode could equally be straight out of the LotR Moria episode.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I love this. It's why I don't play RPGs where player decision-making is very heavily shaped by metagame considerations like "finding the adventure" or "working out what the GM thinks is the real stakes in this situat9ion" or "we need to not split the party".
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    No. There is a denial that there is some asserted "disconnect".. I've posted clearly, throughout this thread, what the principal differences are: *GM authority over backstory and setting; *An important activity in play is for the players to declare relatively low-stakes actions that will...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    A simulation of a stop-motion world, where rogues can evade fireballs while never moving from the space they are standing in?
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    As I posted not very far upthread: You only get a "conflict with sim" if you insist that the player is not allowed to introduce or prompt, but rather must only discover (from the GM) backstory elements. If you are asking "Is there an example of typical narrativist play which mostly consists in...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Odds don't measure causality. They measure likelihoods, correlations etc. I already posted an example upthread: Einstein doesn't cause the universe to be as it is. But his conjectures about how it is are more likely to be true than mine. There are many models that are used - "simulations", if...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    If the gap is 6 inches, then jumping the gap does automatically happen. Likewise if the tower has a ladder up its side; or if the goblin is bound and unconscious and the PC has a knife to the goblin's throat. In more typical cases, it's true that each of the action declarations you describes...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Marvel Heroic RP. The "strange runes" example is an episode of play from a fantasy variant of that system (inspired by the Hacker's Guide, which was a type of prelude to Cortex Prime - I sometimes also describe it as Cortex+ Heroic Fantasy Hack). MHRP uses "subjective" rather than "objective"...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    In MHRP, Trapdoor to Sigil would be an asset, with a die rating. It is no more or less powerful, mechanically, than any other asset. I think that looking at an episode of play of a non-map-and-key RPG as if it were a map-and-key RPG doesn't produce very good analysis.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Who is making this claim, in relation to players and their play of their PCs? And what are their examples of it (either RPG texts that suggest it, or actual play that exhibits it)? I mean, here is an early example I know of, from Gygax's DMG (p 93), discussing player contributions to...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Says who? The GM does not have unilateral authority over the shared fiction.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    This is hugely controversial. I wouldn't play at a table where a GM asserts this sort of power. I mean, even as default-GM-driven/centred a RPG as 5e D&D describes the basic play-loop thus: The Dungeon Master Describes a Scene. The DM tells the players where their adventurers are and what’s...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    White Plume Mountain. Castle Amber. Against the Slave Lords. In all these modules, and as far as I know in the modules that WotC is selling today, we work out whether or not the PC falls down the pit or triggers the pressure plate by (i) tracking the PC's movement on a map, based on (ii) the...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It's not an obvious solve-this-puzzle situation. There's no puzzle. There's five of us sitting around a table (if I'm remembering correctly who was there for this session). I've just told the players that their PCs have been teleported away by the Crypt Thing (in mechanical terms, I've spent...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    From the perspective of an external observer, there is no "most likely" meaning of the runes. That's like asking a reader of LotR, who gets to the picture of the Moria doorway, to guess what is the "most likely" password to open the gates. In the fiction, we know that Gandalf forms conjectures...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Did you not read any of my posts in which I said that this is not a game about solving puzzles or overcoming GM-authored challenges so as to get to the "finish line"? Anyone who is playing MHRP and thinks this seems to be as confused as a person who turns up with their bag of dice to a chess...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I have dug down, and have offered a diagnosis. You apparently reject it because it's "sanctimonious". But anyway, here are two resolution systems: *In classic D&D dungeon-crawling - I'm thinking Ghost Towers of Inverness, or Tomb of Horrors, or anything like that - we work out whether or not...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Sure. But I'm not the poster you need to take that up with!
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