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IMO bless only looks okay because there’s no level 1 spell that scales offensively in a level 1 slot. But that doesn’t make it a good or even above average spell. It’s not worthless, but it’s so rarely going to have any real impact. Control spells scale innately due to the fact that your save...

On a plus. At least no one is saying the same about Wikipedia currently.

It’s funny. I tried to play chat gpt for a chess game not too long ago, it couldn’t even display the changing board states correctly. I don’t think it was the most advanced gpt version at the time though.

There’s also way more advantage. Heroic inspiration. Vex and topple weapon masteries. Etc.

Accuracy hasn’t changed much???? What the heck?

It’s not the number of attacks, it’s how much relative damage the party outputs with and without bless. In 2014 due to lower accuracy bless was more impactful.

In 2014 with a bunch of -5/+10 feats? It’s just not impactful in 2024. And I’m sorry but going from +2 wisdom bonus to 2+1d4 vs higher level dcs of 17+ is pretty meaningless. You’re going to still fail that save. Just command the enemy so it can’t act and use that wisdom save ability ;)

On the thread premise my current group is a man down and are playing an artificer, 2024 wizard and a 2024 echo knight fighter. the wizard player leans much heavier into roleplay than power. As such I even allowed his casting stat to be strength. Anyways the point is that at my table the...

Exactly. My favorite misconception about bless is that it always does something because it allows players to roll 1d4’s. But in reality there’s a decent chance it changes absolutely nothing over whole encounters. Im not a fan of bless. I think it was a bit better in 2014 because the overall...

I dint dispute your facts here, but I have to ask, how are you comparing the damage to the control? Like myself I usually try to estimate how many enemy turns fireball would reduce the encounter by and then do the same for the control spell. I think fireball looks good here vs command. But...

Side note: wouldn’t it be 1 extra hit vs 0.6 extra hits. Since you need to adjust for accuracy?

Probably some selection bias there. If a dm tells me multiclassing on a case by case basis I probably don’t even ask. Even though I’d consider it if he just made it a default option.

Controversial Point. If railroading is not based on dm intent or player feeling then all mechanics are railroading.

I disagree. If you are taking the last word you are clearly my ideological adversary.

Yep. Roleplaying can be fairly broad in practice but most people mean something much more specific and focused when personally using the term. Seems to be the crux of the dilemma.

IMO Pretty easy to see how increased complexity impacts roleplaying at least to some degree.

IMO there’s too much interpretation left in such laws. Means no one behaves to them consistently. As example I’ll glad get over to the right if I’m passing traffic while in left lane but I’ve gotten over too many times to have the person behind me not go fast enough to get in front of me by...

I’ve known of that to happen! Though it was in a small town.

Yep. Much less safe when people do that. Best laws I ever seen about driving were out of Germany. They had 2 particularly good ones. If a vehicle was approaching you and you were both in the left lane then it was your obligation to get out of their way. The other was the zipper law where...

IMO some concepts are just difficult to place all the nuances into words. I think using a definition that underfits the concept so as to make everything definable as that concept is infinitely worse.