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This bugs me so much. Cool for monsters or unique things. Not cool for the NPC "wizards" of the world. (sorcerers, etc.)

Maybe lacking some nuance. Could even be done for the greater good, theoretically. But you mentioned it being permanent and unknown. So...in a way, you killed one person and replaced them with one more to your liking. Where does that stop?

While I like the simplicity of the 5e foundation for me to use as a toolkit, I can see the validity in what you said.

Yeah, go back to using "campaigns" as a word for "setting".

Horrifyingly evil. You could say its not even the same person anymore.

So many little carboard pieces and counters that you had to keep them divided by type or organization in ziplock bags or you would spend your first hour sorting pieces. edit:typo

"Rawr! I'm a monster..."

I hear yah, our experience is similar but results seem to differ.

Agreed that all those thing can happen. But not to extent you imply. It really depends on individual groups, and you always hear about the horror stories. No shops burnt down here.

As a semi-tangent; There should be steam engines. I mean, summon a fire elemental (even a minor one) bind it into a furnace, add water.

Agreed. We had AD&D pixie as a PC. (Granted I learned a lot about what works and what doesnt)

I feel you might be exaggerating for effect a little bit. We never have played "endlessly murder anyone and everyone that gets in their way" But we do kill Bad Guys.

The thread has probably progressed, however... Lying lets them decide (granted there can be influences on their decision). Mind Control makes them do what you say...dominating or puppeteering. Which is why they know after it wears off. (You can imagine that they knew the whole time, but...

Emphasis mine... Consider the "Firestarter" sorcerer. The fluff between their spontaneous manifestation of uncontrollable fire (at first) and the warlock is pretty wide, IMO. Edit:typo

He isn't one.

C, then B or A.

Unless the rules of magic follow least resistance rules. Ending up in similar results. (or its a shortcut for game purposes, so we dont have a wizard fireball, a warlock fire blast, and a sorcerer fire bomb spell) "A wizard, a warlock, and a sorcerer, walk into a bar. All three pick up a mug...

My opinion? Wizards are born with that magical spark. But unlike Sorcerers, it has to be trained and learned to be of any use. Students of Magic. Sorcerers are born with a magical bonfire, that manifests spontaneously until they get the hang of it. Natural Athletes of Magic. Warlocks make a...